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Old 03-03-2012, 12:33 PM
 
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You said we should not allow insurance companies to dictate based on personal beliefs, well you are saying they should cover or not cover based on your beliefs plus it isn't the insurance companies that are the issue, it is the right of some to decide what shoud be covered.
The Blunt Amendment would have allowed someone else to decide for you what should be covered, that someone being your employer. So if your employer was a Jehovah's Witness who didn't believe in blood transfusions, and you found yourself in need of one but at the directive of your employer your insurance won't cover it, you would be okay with that? Do you not understand how dangerous a road this is, to allow employers to decide what should and should not be covered based on their own personal beliefs?
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Old 03-03-2012, 12:33 PM
 
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If Scientology is not a religion, why does the IRS give the Church tax-exempt status?

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Many organizations are given tax exempt status 501(c)3. Your point? Are you suggesting now that the government defines religion, thus establishing it?
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Old 03-03-2012, 12:45 PM
 
Location: Democratic Peoples Republic of Redneckistan
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What about Jehovah's Witnesses and their religious opposition to blood transfusions?
I've always thought that to be an odd belief for a herd that get's their feet slammed in doors and their noses hit by screen doors so much...looks like transfusions would be a good thing for them.
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Old 03-03-2012, 12:46 PM
 
Location: Rational World Park
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Many organizations are given tax exempt status 501(c)3. Your point? Are you suggesting now that the government defines religion, thus establishing it?
So what establishes christianity as a religion and not scientology? They're both based on science fiction.
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Old 03-03-2012, 01:12 PM
 
Location: Illinois Delta
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i don't believe for a minute that women are flocking to obama.

women don't like wars and women protect their children.

i don't believe that men are flocking to obama either.

men don't like being broke and not being able to provide for their families adequately:



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can anyone disagree that the screws are being tightened on our own economy? oil prices rise, and americans suffer even more. the very sad part is that this is ALL intentional, and our troops get put in more danger by this idiocracy.

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Old 03-03-2012, 01:17 PM
 
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Scientology is not a "religion".
For legal purposes, it is.

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It does however fit the profile of organized crime.
On that, we agree.
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Old 03-03-2012, 01:28 PM
 
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Ah, so Scientologists should not be forced to have insurance which covers medical treatment or prescription drugs? Not even for their minor children?
Or members of the Church of Christ, Scientist (Christian Science).
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Old 03-03-2012, 01:30 PM
 
Location: Illinois Delta
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I cannot believe these discussions are happening in 2012 either.

With female enrollment/graduation rates in college exceeding males one would have thought more liberal women would have learned the significance of our Constitutionally affirmed liberties and value those more than security. Instead, these nitwits just want to replace husbands with free government handouts (a.k.a nanny statism) at the price of our liberty. I look at these type of women as traitors. They are part of the enemy within (Marxists/Socialists/Communists) and a very real threat to individual liberty.

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Old 03-03-2012, 01:45 PM
 
Location: The Cascade Foothills
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i've always thought that to be an odd belief for a herd that get's their feet slammed in doors and their noses hit by screen doors so much...looks like transfusions would be a good thing for them.
lol
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Old 03-03-2012, 01:50 PM
 
Location: in a cabin overlooking the mountains
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Many organizations are given tax exempt status 501(c)3. Your point? Are you suggesting now that the government defines religion, thus establishing it?
Not only are there many types of tax exempt organizations, there are several types of organizations which are eligible for 501c(3) tax exempt status, which is applicable to religious organizations.

And surely you are not so naive as to believe that the IRS granting tax exempt status to a religious organization is no different from congress establishing a state religion or passing laws which give preferential status to any religion?

My point, which has been picked up on by other posters in this thread, is that allowing employers to disallow medical prescriptions or treatment based on religion is a slippery slope and if stepped on could open up a slew of problems. What would the Scientology-based employer allow for medication for someone diagnosed with depression? Herbal tea?
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