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Old 04-15-2012, 04:47 PM
 
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Both sides of the aisle love to tout the little quirks in our electoral process. Ohio of course comes to mind immediately.

One fact that seems to be overlooked is that no candidate has ever won without winning their home state. Romney is a lock to lose his.

I for one am not counting Romney out. Why would I? This could be the time a trend is broken. With that said, maybe it's time to throw out the Carter/Obama type comparisons and the "You must win Ohio" type thinking.

This is 2012, and the country is much different. With that said, Romney will lose MA and it will be announced early. I wonder how much this will effect the election.

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Old 04-15-2012, 05:00 PM
 
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Polk, Wilson, and Nixon all lost the states where they lived, but still won the presidency. Several others have won when they lost their "home states."

BTW - "one" and "won" don't mean the same thing. Didn't you say you were an English teacher?
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Old 04-15-2012, 05:01 PM
 
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I thought Mitt was from Michigan.
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Old 04-15-2012, 05:03 PM
 
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I thought Mitt was from Michigan.
Yes, though he will likely lose Michigan as well. He does have a home in NH...that's a state he could win.

I really don't think the "home state" thing will have much of an effect.
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Old 04-15-2012, 05:07 PM
 
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Massachusetts is not out of the picture, Romney is only down ~10% per the latest polls, which is a huge improvement over the 26/27 point margin that usually is, although it's far out so who knows?
The last election that MA went Republican was 84" and before that 1980, both by less than 3% though.
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Old 04-15-2012, 05:11 PM
 
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Massachusetts is not out of the picture, Romney is only down ~10% per the latest polls, which is a huge improvement over the 26/27 point margin that usually is, although it's far out so who knows?
The last election that MA went Republican was 84" and before that 1980, both by less than 3% though.
Even as a Romney supporter, I would say that MA is out of the question, though I also saw that poll and found it very interesting.

NH is absolutely in play.

I would say that MI is absolutely far more likely to go to Obama, but I wouldn't say it's entirely out of the question either. He was down by only 4 points in a recent poll (he was down by much larger margins in polls in February):

Poll: Michigan Independents Shifting to Romney - Washington Wire - WSJ

Still, I wouldn't consider MI to be in play if only because of Romney's stance on the auto bailouts.
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Old 04-15-2012, 05:25 PM
 
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Polk, Wilson, and Nixon all lost the states where they lived, but still won the presidency. Several others have won when they lost their "home states."

BTW - "one" and "won" don't mean the same thing. Didn't you say you were an English teacher?
Thanks for the heads up. I fixed it.

I am no longer in the classroom, but I've taught mostly bilingual and special education.
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Old 04-15-2012, 05:26 PM
 
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Massachusetts is not out of the picture, Romney is only down ~10% per the latest polls, which is a huge improvement over the 26/27 point margin that usually is, although it's far out so who knows?
The last election that MA went Republican was 84" and before that 1980, both by less than 3% though.
No, MA is out of the question. He was down 11, but that poll doesn't match anything else out there and from Rasmussen who had a brutal record in 2010.

With that being said, Romney not being able to win MA will have no impact on his chances to win the Presidency or not.
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Old 04-15-2012, 05:31 PM
 
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Thanks for the heads up. I fixed it.

I am no longer in the classroom, but I've taught mostly bilingual and special education.
LOL. We all make typos from time to time. I was just giving you a hard time.

I thought I remembered you saying you taught English as a Second Language (perhaps that's what you mean by "bilingual" or perhaps I'm not remembering correctly).
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Old 04-15-2012, 06:01 PM
 
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No, MA is out of the question. He was down 11, but that poll doesn't match anything else out there and from Rasmussen who had a brutal record in 2010.

With that being said, Romney not being able to win MA will have no impact on his chances to win the Presidency or not.
If you look at the Numbers the gap drops every poll after January, but anyway Obama will likely win Massachusetts, but Romney has a small chance of winning (I'd say like 20% chance)
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