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Seems one of the main bones of contention in this election and an issue thats going to bring many votes for Obama is Obamacare which is an attempt to give affordable healthcare to the 40 or so million Americans who for whatever reason cannot afford health care or for some reason have been denied healthcare.While i'll agree its not a perfect system and will need refinement as time goes on and sure peoples taxes may rise i'd say its the best option on the table at the moment to take care of the many that can no longer afford healthcare,And i'm sure many are voting for Obama solely on the perceived benefits of his healthcare plan.
What is the GOP's alternative?do they even have a better plan? because with the ever increasing amount of people being priced out of healthcare its not an issue where you can just look the other way anymore and think out of site out of mind.
The GOP plan is?
look at my post.
argue that obama is aiding and abetting fraud.
and also for healthcare costs?
enable competition then.
let foreign doctors be able to travel here to operate. just like they have h1b1 for technologists shall we also outsource our doctors as well then.
might as well
since everything else is outsourced.
well then outsource our nurse and doctors as well. h1b1 then for doctors nurses administrators at hospitals.
that should get more supply of doctors.
But the main problem is the lawsuits.
you/we will have to deal with that one way or another.
the cost will actually go up regarding lawsuits in the universal healthcare system unless you mandate you cannot sue.
but that will set a bad precedent and doctors will be emboldened to make mistakes. thus quality will go down. also it is a moral hazard just like the banksters getting 0% loans are doing to our economy.
so the suing mechanisms will always have to be in place to keep things in check but one can root out the fraud cases at least.
If he wins, real Americans fight on against statism. If you think his winning means conservatives are suddenly going to transform into folks who think the government should take care of every human being from cradle-to-grave, you're sadly mistaken.
So, those who vote for Obama will no longer be "real Americans"?
they won't be real americans and won't be living in 'real america'.
Sorry, that's just crazy talk. From everything we observe from the real world and not the right-wing bubble, President Obama is a centrist president. His Health Care plan is a dusted off version of the plan proposed by the Republicans in the 1990s, which got the Heritage Foundation's stamp of approval.
Obama is less liberal than FDR, who created Social Security and the New Deal; he's less liberal than Lyndon Johnson, who created Medicare and the Great Society programs; he's less liberal than Richard Nixon, who instituted wage and price controls and who created the EPA; and he's even less liberal than Eisenhower, who built the interstate highway system.
No matter. The right-wing doesn't need facts and evidence to insist that President Obama is an extremist Socialist bent upon destroying the fabric of America and anyone who votes for him is anti-American.
It's really pathetic that the right-wing is so devoid of true American values that they denounce people for exercising the most fundamental real-American rights, their right to vote -- unless Americans vote for their candidate.
C'mon Romney is too far right? Give me a break. Only if you are dangling off Lefty Mountain is Romney too far right.
Well, listen to what Romney says. He says that we should undergo austerity and cut the government -- even though that was a failure in Europe.
He supports the Ryan Plan which cuts taxes MORE for the rich and slashes service for everyone else while no closing the debt.
He wants to invade Iran.
It's really pathetic that the right-wing is so devoid of true American values that they denounce people for exercising the most fundamental real-American rights, their right to vote -- unless Americans vote for their candidate.
I read both of them, maybe its just me and its late but i'm having a hard time understanding what you are trying to say.
jam what i am trying to say is romney has a chance if he focuses of obama being fraud even though he himself is a fraud in the health care bill. so solution to romney problem is.
DON'T TALK ABOUT IT. or healthcare for that matter
because that is the part he is weakest. no matter how you slice it. I personally do not support either one.
I am just being in the middle and saying how each one can win.
right now it is still obama winning romney.
OBAMA = many FRAUD cases that should have gotten him impeached if the people would actually look at the cases.
but since congress is part of the fraud they are not touching it.
sadly it is true. focus on eric holder and john corzine if you do not know what cases these are I suggest you look them up.
you have clearly not been reading the important news then.
forget healthcare for Mitt Romney its a lost cause.
we all know he cannot deliver even though it is also extremely important.
jam what i am trying to say is romney has a chance if he focuses of obama being fraud even though he himself is a fraud in the health care bill. so solution to romney problem is.
DON'T TALK ABOUT IT. or healthcare for that matter
because that is the part he is weakest. no matter how you slice it. I personally do not support either one.
I am just being in the middle and saying how each one can win.
right now it is still obama winning romney.
OBAMA = many FRAUD cases that should have gotten him impeached if the people would actually look at the cases.
but since congress is part of the fraud they are not touching it.
sadly it is true. focus on eric holder and john corzine if you do not know what cases these are I suggest you look them up.
you have clearly not been reading the important news then.
forget healthcare for Mitt Romney its a lost cause.
we all know he cannot deliver even though it is also extremely important.
Let me understand your reasoning, because it's baffling.
You have Obama, who has been generally consistent with what he says compared to what he does -- not to say he hasn't broken a few campaign promises.
Then you have Romney, who says completely different things depending upon his audience. Examples: 'Roe v. Wade has gone too far.'
'I believe that since Roe v. Wade has been the law for 20 years we should sustain and support it.'
'It was not my desire to go off and serve in Vietnam.'
'I longed in many respects to actually be in Vietnam and be representing our country there.'
'I saw my father march with Martin Luther King.'
'I did not see it with my own eyes.'
'I think the minimum wage ought to keep pace with inflation.'
'There's no question raising the minimum wage excessively causes a loss of jobs.'
'I respect and will protect a woman's right to choose.'
'I never really called myself pro-choice.'
After all what we know of the two, you conclude that voters should support Romney, who offers nothing but warmed-over right-wing platitudes, with an extra helping of fraudulent arithmetic, and it’s fairly obvious that even he himself doesn’t believe anything he’s saying, because Obama is the fraud?
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