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For one, I have a 20 year old son that can stay on my company's health plan instead of being kicked off at 18. Since he needed to go to the hospital recently, a bill that cost $2,765, cost me a small co-payment instead of the entire bill.
Let's throw in another for good measure. During 2009, I added an array of solar panels to my house that generates 70% of my electricity. The Federal Stimulus program (you know, the one Obama passed and the GOP derided) helped pay for much of that. Now, for the next 25 years my electric bill will be lower and the nation will use less foreign fuel to make power.
Thank you President Obama.
Your "What has he done for you," reminds me of this:
For one, I have a 20 year old son that can stay on my company's health plan instead of being kicked off at 18. Since he needed to go to the hospital recently, a bill that cost $2,765, cost me a small co-payment instead of the entire bill.
Let's throw in another for good measure. During 2009, I added an array of solar panels to my house that generates 70% of my electricity. The Federal Stimulus program (you know, the one Obama passed and the GOP derided) helped pay for much of that. Now, for the next 25 years my electric bill will be lower and the nation will use less foreign fuel to make power.
Thank you President Obama.
Your "What has he done for you," reminds me of this:
And who is paying for that?
That is one thing you all fail to talk about. Talk about the "benefits" but never who is footing the bills.
I guess as long as one doesn't see the bill, it means it is free!
Actually those farmers offered to hire legal Americans that were in need of work and no one showed up....
The government allows a certain number of temporary workers into the country legally. They artificially set their wages very low, but for some it beats nothing.
When more workers are needed farmers seem to think that this should be the prevailing wages. So yes, it is difficult to get people to work on a farm for what amounts to less than they could get at McDonald's.
The answer here of course is not to ignore those who come here illegally. It's to either butt out and allow a wage the market sets OR do a better job of screening and allowing people in legally.
That is one thing you all fail to talk about. Talk about the "benefits" but never who is footing the bills.
I guess as long as one doesn't see the bill, it means it is free!
Out of sight, out of mind.
If "that" is the video, Monty Python is paying for it.
If "that" is health care, my employer and myself are paying for it. The evidence is that keeping children on the policy until 26 adds very little to insurance premiums but does reduce the "dead beat factor" at hospital emergency rooms.
If "that" is the solar subsidies, the taxpayer is paying for it but receive the benefit of adding to available electricity on the grid; less air pollution and a positive balance of trade (or less negative balance of trade.) It's also economic stimulus with a positive outcome.
That is one thing you all fail to talk about. Talk about the "benefits" but never who is footing the bills.
I guess as long as one doesn't see the bill, it means it is free!
Out of sight, out of mind.
You keep obsessing about who's paying, we are all paying for everything, heres a list of government departments that are using tax dollars to remain relevant= A-Z Index of U.S. Government Departments and Agencies (A) | USA.gov
Departments that you may think unnecessary and choose to abolish may be very important to others, ones i may choose to abolish may directly affect you,we are all in this together as a team whether our political leanings agree or not, starting to cherry pick where your taxes are going to go is a recipe for total chaos.
You keep obsessing about who's paying, we are all paying for everything, heres a list of government departments that are using tax dollars to remain relevant= A-Z Index of U.S. Government Departments and Agencies (A) | USA.gov
Departments that you may think unnecessary and choose to abolish may be very important to others, ones i may choose to abolish may directly affect you,we are all in this together as a team whether our political leanings agree or not, starting to cherry pick where your taxes are going to go is a recipe for total chaos.
Now this is what I call putting country before politics....it is a shame more Republicans don't feel this way, all they want to do is get rid of all "Democrat like" programs and spend more money on their own pet programs. It would be nice to get back to a time when both parties worked together and through their differences to get things done for the good of the country instead of this who selfish party act that has been going on here and often times blatantly showcased in a number of pro-Republican posts.
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You keep obsessing about who's paying, we are all paying for everything, heres a list of government departments that are using tax dollars to remain relevant= A-Z Index of U.S. Government Departments and Agencies (A) | USA.gov
Departments that you may think unnecessary and choose to abolish may be very important to others, ones i may choose to abolish may directly affect you,we are all in this together as a team whether our political leanings agree or not, starting to cherry pick where your taxes are going to go is a recipe for total chaos.
And that's exactly what the right wing and the tea baggers are aiming for. Don't have kids?... then fuggedabout school taxes. Don't use the library or parks?.... scratch those taxes too. Paying for highways, bridges, prisons, infrastructure improvements that ain't in your neighborhood?... ditto those taxes, and on and on. Just call it Narcissism as Public Policy, aka, "it's always all about ME!"
The senate had a filibuster proof super-majority for only about 5-6 months over President Obama's 1st 2 years.
Actually, your link says that I am correct. I didn't say Obama had a filibuster proof congress for the whole 2 years. However, the Democrats have lied about how often and what was filibustered. Obama hasn't been able to sign an annual budget into law, because he is a weak leader that can't get it through a congress that he controlled. There wasn't a filibuster on that.
What is it with Democrats not wanting to read or have things read?
Disagreeing is one thing, but who are you to decide what's "the work for the people of the USA"... 'cuz you sure don't speak for me (or a whole lot of other "people of the USA" either)?!
And what, exactly, is the appropriate way to deal with the kinda folks whose "bargaining" position is "my way or the highway", and who openly admit that their real goal, is for him to "fail"?
You do realize what the President is? He works for the People of this great country. He is to work foreign affairs too. He is our representative to the world. You dont like that, well tough, it is what it is.
You have a lot to learn about government and your elected officials. Good luck and stay in school, or go back to get your money back.
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