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Old 08-13-2012, 09:22 PM
 
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They can never come close to the lies and distortions disseminated by Fox. Of course, it's an entertainment entity and not necessarily meant to be a source of factual information.
Okay, so that also describes CNN, MSNBC (especially MSNBC, oh my), ABC, NBC, CBS, PBS and 90% of the old-fashioned newspapers in America. Fox is a minor offender compared to most of those. So what if they have a right-of-center bias? ALL those other questionably informational organizations have left-of-center biases, some of which go MUCH further to the left than Fox has ever been to the right. Yet they get a pass because liberals agree with them. Because in liberal land, it's all truth.
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Old 08-13-2012, 09:26 PM
 
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I agree...these are not exactly non-biased sources.

Make no mistake - Paul Ryan is pro-life, as are most Republicans, but these sources are likely not exactly telling the full story.
Don't like my source? That's fine. Let's try the New York Times instead. The source doesn't matter anyway as long as it's a reported vs. opinion piece. Ryan didn't just vote for a radical extremist personhood bill--he sponsored it.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/13/us...forefront.html
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Old 08-13-2012, 09:32 PM
 
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Ryan does favor abortion rights minimally when the woman's life is at risk and does not support making contraception illegal.

Regardless of Ryan's positions, Romney's positions are as follows: He supports the right to use contraception, but does not feel there is an entitlement to funding for it. On abortion, though he personally thinks it should be legal only in cases of rape, incest, and when the woman's life it as risk, he does not support a federal ban on it, thinking it should be a state issue, and does support abortion rights in those cases.

Of course presidential candidates and their running mates do not always agree on everything. When there is disagreement, they usually run on the stance of the presidential candidate and not the stance of the vice presidential candidate.
Sorry, but the policies he's not only supported, but sponsored say something different. Personhood amendments declare life at the moment of conception, so any type of birth control that can prevent the implantation of a fertilized egg, like the IUD or the pill, are banned. He DID support the ability of hospitals to refuse to perform abortions to save the life of the mother. He can say whatever he wants, but his actions speak a whole lot louder than his words. These are extremist, very scary views that go way out of the mainstream.
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Old 08-13-2012, 09:36 PM
 
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Why is it that the left thinks that they speak for all women and that the only issue women care about is unfettered access to abortion?

Could it be because they're a bunch of ignorant a-s-s-h-o-l-e-s?

I think so!
How is a opposing a personhood amendment that bans commonly used forms of birth control translated into only caring about unfettered access to abortion? Like to exaggerate just a tad?
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Old 08-13-2012, 09:39 PM
 
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Bad news for the Sandra Flukes of the world.
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Old 08-14-2012, 06:46 AM
 
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Ok so let me make sure I have this straight.

If I am a married man with two daughters who tries to be the best husband/father/provider I can be for my wife and daughters, doing everything I can to make sure their lives are are happy safe and secure as can be, forgoing my own happiness for thiers, I am still, according to the leftist pro-abortion zealots, engaging in a war on women and subjugating all women for no other reason than the fact that I am pro-life disagree with on the abortion issue?

And these left wings kooks have the nerve to call people like me extremist?

There is nothing quite as smug, condescending, arrogant, and yet so consistently ignorant as the modern American leftist.
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Old 08-14-2012, 07:16 AM
 
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The only thing that matters, that impacts it all, is the economy. Greece, Italy and Spain are all proving it. No economic growth, high, systemic unemployment. And the encumbent, won't, can't talk about the economy.

U6 = 15.2%
U3 = 8.3%
GDP = 1.5%
$5,000,000,000.00 in new debt in less than four years
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Old 08-14-2012, 07:22 AM
 
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Guess what mogal, they are dependent. Kind of ironic isn't it. Reminds me of teenagers who want to be different, unique, and show they by dressing like, acting like and talking like........all of the other teenagers. Some never grow up.

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Oh the horror of not backing free birth control. Women who want the federal government to be their sugar daddy will always vote for socialists.
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Old 08-14-2012, 07:27 AM
 
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Lef those words seep in progs! The thing is, in order to justify an extreme, narcicisstic position, one must, at all costs, demonize someone who has different viewpoint. Ignore the whole, find something, anything to dehumanize him/her who disagrees.
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Ok so let me make sure I have this straight.

If I am a married man with two daughters who tries to be the best husband/father/provider I can be for my wife and daughters, doing everything I can to make sure their lives are are happy safe and secure as can be, forgoing my own happiness for thiers, I am still, according to the leftist pro-abortion zealots, engaging in a war on women and subjugating all women for no other reason than the fact that I am pro-life disagree with on the abortion issue?

And these left wings kooks have the nerve to call people like me extremist?

There is nothing quite as smug, condescending, arrogant, and yet so consistently ignorant as the modern American leftist.
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Old 08-14-2012, 07:33 AM
 
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Yes he is.

Ryan voted against the Lily Ledbetter fair pay act: House Roll Call #37 Details - OpenCongress

Ryan co-sponsored legislation declaring that "human life shall be deemed to begin with fertilization": Sanctity of Human Life Act (H.R. 212) - GovTrack.us

Ryan has voted to defund Planned Parenthood several times:How Would a Vice President Paul Ryan Affect Women? - The Daily Beast
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