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Although you assert we have a huge increase in the size and scope of government, we don't. Besides the ACA, which goes into effect next year, where are the huge new federal programs? The number of federal employees is less than it was a few years ago.
But if you think the government should be cut, tell you what, go fly to Boca Raton and go tell a group of senior citizens that we shouldn't have Medicare or Social Security. Go tell mothers that we shouldn't inspect car seats for safety or inspect meat or vegetables in supermarkets.
No one said there will not be medicare or social security. Read that again. We just need to reform them so they don't go bankrupt. The liberals are fiddling while Rome burns.
No one said there will not be medicare or social security. Read that again. We just need to reform them so they don't go bankrupt. The liberals are fiddling while Rome burns.
The reforms the GOP proposes keeps the names only but the programs wouldn't resemble the programs Americans love.
You are a Canadian. This forum is about elections in the United States. Who the hell cares what you think! We Americans have strong differences of opinions. We don't need outsiders fanning the flames any more than they are already fanned.
Agree! Besides the posters comments are just plain wrong.
No one said there will not be medicare or social security. Read that again. We just need to reform them so they don't go bankrupt. The liberals are fiddling while Rome burns.
WASHINGTON — Mitt Romney’s promise to restore $716 billion that he says President Obama “robbed†from Medicare has some health care experts puzzled, and not just because his running mate, Representative Paul D. Ryan, included the same savings in his House budgets.
... But repealing the savings, policy analysts say, would hasten the insolvency of Medicare by eight years — to 2016, the final year of the next presidential term, from 2024.
From the first sentance in your article: "The 2010 health care law cut Medicare reimbursements to hospitals and insurers, not benefits for older Americans."
That is just stupid. If hospitals and insurers get less money for a service do you think they will take the financial hit or pass it on to their senior consumers? Seniors WILL get hurt. They will get hurt right now. We are not talking about reforms to those that will be seniors in 11 years, but those that are on Medicare today.
Romney/Ryan are proposing reforms that will take place in 11 years. They will reduce costs through competition from private insurers. Future seniors will have choices of which insurer to use, including traditional Medicare. They also have 11 years to prepare for these reforms.
Yeah, we've only grown from something like $1.7T to $3.5T over the last decade.. yeah, no huge increase there.
How much is that due to inflation and population growth?
Let's look at that and what do we see? Most of that happened when Bush was President and Obama has kept it steady since he was inaugurated. So you complainers came late to the party.
The spike in the graphic above – which Ferguson claims is stimulus-related – is actually Census-related. Bill McBride, over at Calculated Risk, has been adjusting for it in his jobs graphs every month (showing both with and without) since the numbers were made public. In May 2010, for example, there were – referring to the above-linked document – 564,000 temporary Census workers on the Fed’s payroll that Ferguson seems to think were related to Obama’s stimulus package. As one would expect, as the Census was completed, the government just “shut that whole thing down,” to borrow an Akin-ism. Adjusted for Census workers, the Bloomberg graph would look exactly as you’d expect – a fairly steady, consistent downward sloping line.
How much is that due to inflation and population growth?
I dont know, if thats your position that its because of these things then you need to back it up..
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Let's look at that and what do we see? Most of that happened when Bush was President and Obama has kept it steady since he was inaugurated. So you complainers came late to the party.
Not at all. obama rose it from $2.98T to $3.5T in year ONE, and then kept it steady.. That doesnt mean the increase didnt take place. Furthermore, I've ALWAYS complained about the increase, even under Bush, where people like you whined and moaned about it under Bush, but stand here non stop defending it under Obama.. I'm no hypocrite...
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