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Old 08-23-2012, 08:02 AM
 
Location: South Carolina
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Poll: Obama leads by 3 in Ohio, up 10 among independents | TPM2012

I suspect this trend among independents and women will grow. Obama tried but was never going to win working class white males. He could have brought back slavery and still lost that vote.
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Old 08-23-2012, 08:16 AM
 
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Ryan is more of a liability than an asset to Romney. Ryan might help a little in Wisconsin, but his extreme views will weigh Romney down in other swing states and force Romney into debates he was looking to avoid, like social issues and entitlements.
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Old 08-23-2012, 08:19 AM
 
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Ryan is more of a liability than an asset to Romney. Ryan might help a little in Wisconsin, but his extreme views will weigh Romney down in other swing states and force Romney into debates he was looking to avoid, like social issues and entitlements.
Anyone who says this is a good sign for romney is just being a cheerleader. I would be really worried if this shift went toward romney. Bottom line going tea party extreme hurt romney.
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Old 08-23-2012, 08:23 AM
 
Location: Norman, OK
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The total margin is virtually unchanged, though from earlier polls. How is it that Obama can gain 10 on independents but only lead by 3 in this poll? From whom did Obama lose support (or Romney gain)?
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Old 08-23-2012, 08:25 AM
 
Location: Area 51.5
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I'm afraid to ask on which rack the OP finds his funny papers and comic books.
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Old 08-23-2012, 08:29 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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Romney will win Ohio. Did you see the NY Times poll where Romney has a double digit lead among Florida seniors?
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Old 08-23-2012, 08:30 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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The total margin is virtually unchanged, though from earlier polls. How is it that Obama can gain 10 on independents but only lead by 3 in this poll? From whom did Obama lose support (or Romney gain)?
Poor polling or he's beginning to lose the Reagan Democrats
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Old 08-23-2012, 08:32 AM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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The total margin is virtually unchanged, though from earlier polls. How is it that Obama can gain 10 on independents but only lead by 3 in this poll? From whom did Obama lose support (or Romney gain)?
"...The president and Romney were locked at 42 percent among independents in June; Obama has now opened up a 10-point lead with independent Ohio voters, 49 percent to 39 percent... "

The independents are only a fraction of the entire population so "up by 10 among independents" can very easily translate into "up by 3 among everyone". The independents are the ones who will decide the election even though they are only a fraction of the population.

Ken
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Old 08-23-2012, 08:47 AM
 
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Romney will win Ohio. Did you see the NY Times poll where Romney has a double digit lead among Florida seniors?
All the polling I've seen out of Ohio has Obama winning. Romney's opposition to the auto rescue is hurting him there big time.
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Old 08-23-2012, 10:02 AM
 
Location: Norman, OK
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"...The president and Romney were locked at 42 percent among independents in June; Obama has now opened up a 10-point lead with independent Ohio voters, 49 percent to 39 percent... "

The independents are only a fraction of the entire population so "up by 10 among independents" can very easily translate into "up by 3 among everyone". The independents are the ones who will decide the election even though they are only a fraction of the population.

Ken
Right, but 2 months ago Obama was also up by 3 points. So what changed to keep Romney at the same total margin?
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