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Old 09-13-2012, 08:06 PM
 
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It's a bogus claim. There are many other parodies. No one ever told "Weird Al" Yankovic to take down his songs. Universal has no case.
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Old 09-13-2012, 08:17 PM
 
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Old 09-14-2012, 12:03 AM
 
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It's a bogus claim. There are many other parodies. No one ever told "Weird Al" Yankovic to take down his songs. Universal has no case.
Parodies like this especially since they are using the music are borderline infringement. You're allowed to do this under "fair use" but there is no exact definition as to what fair use is.


If the author of the video feels that it's not infringement they can wait to be sued and fight it in court.

The fact that it's still on youtube tells me Universal is hesitant because they could have it taken down immediately with simple DMCA notice...... however that opens them up to damages if it's found to be non infringing.

As far as weird Al goes I believe he sought permission from the performers he was going to parody and it was considered an honor by most.
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Old 09-14-2012, 11:55 AM
 
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Parodies like this especially since they are using the music are borderline infringement. You're allowed to do this under "fair use" but there is no exact definition as to what fair use is.


If the author of the video feels that it's not infringement they can wait to be sued and fight it in court.

The fact that it's still on youtube tells me Universal is hesitant because they could have it taken down immediately with simple DMCA notice...... however that opens them up to damages if it's found to be non infringing.

As far as weird Al goes I believe he sought permission from the performers he was going to parody and it was considered an honor by most.
When "Weird Al" did the "Amish Paradise" parody, Coolio was dead against it and the song was authorized by the record company without his permission anyway.
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Old 09-14-2012, 01:30 PM
 
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It's a bogus claim. There are many other parodies. No one ever told "Weird Al" Yankovic to take down his songs. Universal has no case.
First three links in Google:

Trademark, Copyright, and Entertainment Law Forum: "Weird Al" Yankovic vs. Those Who Do Not Understand

Weird Al Yankovic's Parody Of Lady Gaga's 'Born This Way' | UPROXX

2 Live Crew, Weird Al Yankovic, and the Supreme Court on Parody | LegalZoom


The rest of your statement is correct though. On the other hand Universal has to at least attempt to protect their works though.
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Old 09-14-2012, 03:37 PM
 
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When "Weird Al" did the "Amish Paradise" parody, Coolio was dead against it and the song was authorized by the record company without his permission anyway.
I would assume Coolio had no say in the matter and the record company owned the copyright and or had licensing authority.

The way this usually works is the record company will offer up and coming artists long term contracts that that are substantially better than what they are making on their own. The record company will then promote and open doors for them. If they become really popular that contract is now peanuts. If they don't want to take the deal there is 1000's of others that will that are just as talented.

I had friends in band that were touring all over the East Coast in the mid to late 90's tat were getting really popular, they even managed to get a gig at CBGB's before it closed. That's what happened with them, they had a contract offer but they had to sign their lives away. They declined the offer because they were having too much fun. They still play the clubs locally.
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Old 09-15-2012, 05:40 AM
 
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I would assume Coolio had no say in the matter and the record company owned the copyright and or had licensing authority.

The way this usually works is the record company will offer up and coming artists long term contracts that that are substantially better than what they are making on their own. The record company will then promote and open doors for them. If they become really popular that contract is now peanuts. If they don't want to take the deal there is 1000's of others that will that are just as talented.

I had friends in band that were touring all over the East Coast in the mid to late 90's tat were getting really popular, they even managed to get a gig at CBGB's before it closed. That's what happened with them, they had a contract offer but they had to sign their lives away. They declined the offer because they were having too much fun. They still play the clubs locally.
If that's the case then why would it be Ok to authorize a Coolio song parody and not "Romney Girl"?
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Old 09-15-2012, 06:25 AM
 
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It's a bogus claim. There are many other parodies. No one ever told "Weird Al" Yankovic to take down his songs. Universal has no case.
If they had a case, theyd send notice to youtube, who would remove it immediately because of liability concerns
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Old 09-15-2012, 06:30 AM
 
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If that's the case then why would it be Ok to authorize a Coolio song parody and not "Romney Girl"?
Because it's up to the record company.
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Old 09-15-2012, 06:37 AM
 
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If they had a case, theyd send notice to youtube, who would remove it immediately because of liability concerns
If they DMCA it and then lose a suit brought by the author they are liable for damages and that's entirely possible in this case. The safer course of action would be suing in court and leave it up in interim -or- they may just be bluffing.
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