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Old 07-29-2013, 07:47 AM
 
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Citation to prove this laughable assertion?
Good luck with that one. Making up outrageous nonsense then believing it as fact is a right wing staple.
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Old 07-29-2013, 07:56 AM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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As we democrats found in the 2000 and 2004 elections, which some of us felt were stolen and gerrymandered, we can imagine how you feel about Obama being elected to two terms, however, we feel the past two elections were won fair and square. In the 2000 and 2004 elections, many of us democrats were very angry about the outcomes. We feel your pain, we know what it's like to lose elections.

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When republicans can come up with a viable candidate, maybe you can show up at the polls in 2016, and not hang your heads in shame of what your party came up with in the past as candidates. We know how disappointing Romney and McCain must have been for you.

There are middle road republicans and conservatives in the real world, you just need to drop the hard right positions that hurt your party. You can be fiscally conservative, but at the same time, you can be socially liberal too. Your party also needs to stop placing blame on the poor and middle class for America's problems, and find an alternate way of fixing what's wrong.
Slow day in the 'hood NoJiveMan?
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Old 07-29-2013, 08:04 AM
 
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Both of them are BS. Vote Constitution Party.
Does the Constitution Party embrace NAFTA treaties? Or is it "anything goes" because NAFTA is not mentioned in the constitution?
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Old 07-29-2013, 08:18 AM
 
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Republicans don't need to adopt Liberal social positions, they just need to back off the hard-right positions. You don't have to approve of Liberal social issues, but you should advance personal freedoms for everyone -- something the Conservative platform claims but rarely exercises.
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Old 07-29-2013, 09:18 AM
 
Location: The Brat Stop
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Ummm, not exactly true, when you get more votes in a district than that district has citizens. There has been many a people and news reports of people voting MULTIPLE times for Obama which isnt exactly "FAIR and SQUARE".

Now dont take that as me being against the rest of your argument, I am a realist and I imagine every election in the last 10-20 years has had some kind of tinkering to help it swing one way or another.
Yes it is because people representing the GOP in several states were accused of "tampering" in the 2012 election.

This is but one story.
GOP registration worker charged with voter fraud - NBC Politics

Not only that, but GOP backed superpac groups threw millions of dollars at an attempt to buy the 2012 election, and we all saw how that worked. I think republicans have a better shot at gerrymandering elections than buying them.
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Old 07-29-2013, 09:27 AM
 
Location: On the Group W bench
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Ummm, not exactly true, when you get more votes in a district than that district has citizens. There has been many a people and news reports of people voting MULTIPLE times for Obama which isnt exactly "FAIR and SQUARE".
All reputable sources say this is fiction. Please show me your source that proves it's true.
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Old 07-29-2013, 10:53 AM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC (in my mind)
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Liberals who insist that Kerry won in 2004 are just as delusional (though not racist) as the birthers. Bush won that election fair and square. Even the Florida recounts in 2000 still had Bush up, even if by only a few hundred votes. I never understood why Democrats insisted that the only counties to get a hand recount in 2000 be the heavily Democratic South Florida counties. Nonetheless what is done is done. Conservatives have lost huge under Obama. Liberals barely lost both elections during the Bush years.
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Old 07-29-2013, 10:56 AM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC (in my mind)
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Republicans don't need to adopt Liberal social positions, they just need to back off the hard-right positions. You don't have to approve of Liberal social issues, but you should advance personal freedoms for everyone -- something the Conservative platform claims but rarely exercises.
The young vote depends on the LGBT issues. 70+% of people under 30 will consider voting hard Democrat as long as the GOP continues its crusade against gays.
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Old 07-29-2013, 10:28 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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I don't feel their pain. I feel that they ARE a pain.

They've had decades, generations, to join us in modern times, and they keep finding ways to go even further backwards.
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Old 07-30-2013, 12:55 AM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC (in my mind)
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I don't feel their pain. I feel that they ARE a pain.

They've had decades, generations, to join us in modern times, and they keep finding ways to go even further backwards.
They are starting to move ahead, ever so slowly.

Republican Support For Gay Marriage Jumps to 52 Percent
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