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Republicans haven't a chance in hell of winning the Electoral College, unless they gerrymander, suppress the vote, rig the election...which I understand they are hard at work trying to do.
These polls predicted that Romney would win, while Pubs everywhere danced in the streets, until REALITY hit them on election night, and the annihilation swept the Democrat to a big win.
Not a Republican alive who can beat Hillary Clinton if she runs...and don't you forget it either.
Hillary's time has passed IMHO. Please name me 1 other Dem who'd have a real chance in 2016 unless the economy gets a whole lot better 1st?
I don't know why we even discuss presidential politics. According to the DNC's sock puppets, every presidential election from now until the end of time will be won by the Democrats, no matter who runs or how badly the party brand is damaged.
I honestly believe the DNC pays multiple people to astroturf sites like this. There are people who post the same nonsense over and over hundreds of times in order to make Democratic victory look inevitable.
Nothing in politics is guaranteed, and the DNCs sock puppets should know better.
The blue wall certainly isn't impermeable but it is very strong. I don't know how anyone with a functioning brain can say the GOP will have an easier time coming up with 270 electoral votes than the Democrats.
In CO, she is statistically tied (only up by 2) with Rand Paul and Governor Walker. Bush is a quite well-known figure, sure, but are Paul and Walker? To people who don't focus on politics, I'd doubt it, even though Ron is Rand's father and Walker put the unions in their place.
I know some of you guys will say "Ha! Ha! Your candidates are losing just like we knew!" But I keep hearing Hillary will win in a landslide and there are no buts about it. These results would seem to be a bit of a red flag for the Democrats, even if they're not very good for the GOP on their face, especially given that most of our potential candidates don't have the same name recognition that she does. And she still might not run...
None of the states you named are actually in the Blue wall. Do you need someone to define blue wall for you ???
think 1992 election, and every state that has voted blue for every election after that.
Many Democrats on here say the Blue Wall most certainly does include these three states.
No they dont. there is only one person on this forum who post about the blue wall any time electoral politics are mentioned and he has never included those states in the blue wall.
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Originally Posted by afoigrokerkok
I agree with you. And, yes, I know which party has won which states each election for at least 3-4 decades. With that being said, there are many Democratic posters on the forum who allege that, entirely based on the 2008 and 2012 elections, states like VA, CO, IA, NH, etc. are "Blue Wall" states that the Republicans have no chance in. They think the election is completely unimportant because the winner is pre-determined with 100% certainty (even if Hillary chooses not to run).
No, they allege that those states are becoming more reliably blue, not that they are 100% certain for a Democrat.
And No one has said the elections are unimportant, why so much hyperbole ??
Many Democrats on here say the Blue Wall most certainly does include these three states.
Of course many do. I think this whole blue/red wall is being overdone big time. How many years ago was AR, considered solid blue? Heck we couldn't even get a R governor very often and certainly never a senator or congressman or very rarely. This goes for many states. CA used to be Red. I was just told by someone on here VA is a solid Blue state now.
They would be considered purple states with VA being the newcomer to the group. The blue wall isn't a guaranteed win, it just makes things much easier for the Dems.
According to a few that post here: a blue wall is a guarantee win, just ask them and they are ALWAYS right.
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