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Old 02-25-2015, 03:12 PM
 
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It's easy to toss it to the side because it is Huffington Post but it is an aggregate that shows polls where Cruz was favorable. Pre-shutdown, it was common for polls to be more favorable than unfavorable for Cruz, myself included. Afterwards, I only saw one with that same result.
Here's the problem with Cruz, he's an obstructionist. This is why I don't like him and the nation don't. He don't compromise at all. As president, you CAN'T DO THAT. If he is elected (which I highly doubt,) he'll be one-term because people will realize that the main problem in congress from 2013-2016 was him and his Tea Party brethern. I wouldn't be surprised if he gets impeached after the 2018 midterm IFF he was elected.
Huffpo leans left, just as The Washington Examiner leans right; each provides news from a different slant. Both can be spot-on with the news, btw.

Cruz has been labeled an "obstructionist" by establishment politicos from both sides of the aisle. The problem is, he stands out because he knows the Constitution backward and forward, thus knows the rules of how Congress and the gov't are required to govern. Most of Congress dislike him because Ted expects them to abide by the laws and rules of our Constitution. RINO's and democrats hate that. They know most Americans either don't pay attention to their shenanigans or if they do, don't go to the trouble of holding Congress accountable for their crap. Ted has made his position very clear: he's not in D.C. to make friends, he's there to represent the people of Texas. If you (you in general) care to read about him, here is the link to his bio:

About Senator Cruz | Ted Cruz | U.S. Senator for Texas

It's refreshing to have a rep follow through on campaign promises. Reading through many of the threads on this forum, many posters from both sides have lamented about the lack of representation by their own reps, yet here is someone that does, and he's called an obstructionist. That being said, if Cruz began to flip-flop or vote against the wishes of his constituents, I'd turn on him in a heartbeat. We don't need any more liars/thieves in Washington. JMO.
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Old 02-25-2015, 03:23 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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Hate welfare queen rhetoric? The word hate shouldn't even enter into this and yes welfare queens are a fiscal problem to this country and are a part of that 47%. Again, the truth offends? People who pay payroll taxes aren't a part of the 47% so what are you talking about? What is the Teaparty being asked to compromise on that is in the best interests of this country that they are refusing to do? The Teaparty is not a political party anyway. They have no say in congress. Only our Senators and Reps do.
By what the Forbes article I cited, no. They considered payroll taxes as paying taxes. Why, because you actually do pay them unless you're collecting social security, your job is under the table such as illegal immigrants or you're doing odd jobs around the neighborhood such as repairs, lawn-care, pet-sitting, babysitting, and house-sitting.
The Tea Party in particular those like Cruz, and Lee (to a lesser extent Paul (all of which no longer caucus as Tea Party members)) are being asked to compromise to get the nation set straight like the rest of congress as well as President Obama. Remember, Republicans (including those who caucus as Tea Party members in the congress) voted on a DHS budget that reversed Obama's executive order allowing more migrant/illegal workers to stay in the country. You actually think a sitting president would reverse a decision they made?
The Tea Party may not be a political party par-say BUT they do have a say in congress as a Caucus just as the Blue Dog Democrats. Without them how else would Lee and Cruz get elected? Without the Tea Party, do you think Washington wouldn't run at least a little better with a few less no extremists who wont compromise for the good of the nation?

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Old 02-25-2015, 03:25 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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There is no Teaparty, party in congress. There are only the Republicans and the Democrats and perhaps one or two Independents. So how can they be asked by congress to compromise on anything in congress? I ask for the third time though just what are these non-existent congress members being asked too compromise on that is in" the best interests of this country" that they are supposedly not willing to compromise on?
Then what is the Tea Party Caucus to you, a bunch of conservative Republicans who get together and drink tea at the Tea Leaf?
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Old 02-25-2015, 03:30 PM
 
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There is no Teaparty, party in congress. There are only the Republicans and the Democrats and perhaps one or two Independents. So how can they be asked by congress to compromise on anything in congress? I ask for the third time though just what are these non-existent congress members being asked too compromise on that is in" the best interests of this country" that they are supposedly not willing to compromise on?
The Not-Ready-for-Prime-Time Republicans
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Old 02-25-2015, 03:31 PM
 
Location: Wallace, Idaho
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You're right. The Republicans needs the Tea Party to win elections (lucky them). That doesn't mean they need to nominate a tried and true Tea Party candidate. They simply need to find a reasonable candidate who is palatable to the Tea Party. Nominating the perfect Tea Party candidate would be committing political suicide .. it would be as if the Democrats decided Dennis Kucinich was their man back in 2004. Talk about a blood bath that would have been. Instead, Democrats picked a guy the Kucinich freaks could live with and the moderates would vote for.
If only we had an electorate that would actually vote for good people like Kucinich.
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Old 02-25-2015, 06:07 PM
 
Location: NJ
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OldGlory, Romneycare was Obamacare, same mandate based method funded it.
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Old 02-25-2015, 06:10 PM
 
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By what the Forbes article I cited, no. They considered payroll taxes as paying taxes. Why, because you actually do pay them unless you're collecting social security, your job is under the table such as illegal immigrants or you're doing odd jobs around the neighborhood such as repairs, lawn-care, pet-sitting, babysitting, and house-sitting.
The Tea Party in particular those like Cruz, and Lee (to a lesser extent Paul (all of which no longer caucus as Tea Party members)) are being asked to compromise to get the nation set straight like the rest of congress as well as President Obama. Remember, Republicans (including those who caucus as Tea Party members in the congress) voted on a DHS budget that reversed Obama's executive order allowing more migrant/illegal workers to stay in the country. You actually think a sitting president would reverse a decision they made?
The Tea Party may not be a political party par-say BUT they do have a say in congress as a Caucus just as the Blue Dog Democrats. Without them how else would Lee and Cruz get elected? Without the Tea Party, do you think Washington wouldn't run at least a little better with a few less no extremists who wont compromise for the good of the nation?
It is merely your opinion and bias that claims that the Teaparty is made up of extremists. How many times do I have to repeat that they won't nor should they compromise on what is best for this nation? If you'd get off your kick and attacks about the Teaparty and talk about the Dems and the Republicans who are our true congress members perhaps we could have a real conversation.

I am not following your remarks about the DHS budget. It is my understanding that the Republicans caved into funding Obama's amnesty by signing the DHS budget and will be in affect till Sept. I am disappointed in this as that should never have been tacked on to that budget in the first place and now the taxpayer will have to cover those costs unless the Circuit Court upholds the Texas judge's ruling whenever that ruling occurs.
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Old 02-25-2015, 06:16 PM
 
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Then what is the Tea Party Caucus to you, a bunch of conservative Republicans who get together and drink tea at the Tea Leaf?
There are only Republicans and Democrats (maybe an Independent or two) that hold office in congress. Some may have adopted the ideals of the Teaparty organization but so what? What about that leftist organization that had sit-ins all over the country a year or so ago? Are you saying that there aren't any Democrats in congress who adhere to their ideals? Should we start calling them by that group's name instead of calling them Democrats instead?
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Old 02-25-2015, 06:25 PM
 
Location: Riding the light...
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The GOP will never win another President, without the Tea Party

If the House and Senate keep pithing away legislative opportunities the Tea Party won't be necessary... unless it grows exponentially beforehand.
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Old 02-25-2015, 07:42 PM
 
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The GOP will never win another President, without the Tea Party

If the House and Senate keep pithing away legislative opportunities the Tea Party won't be necessary... unless it grows exponentially beforehand.
What legislative opportunities?
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