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Old 06-22-2015, 06:36 PM
 
Location: Stasis
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Trump may not even be eligible for the 1st TV debate.

Summary of recent polls:
2016 National Republican Primary - Polls - HuffPost Pollster

Latest WSJ poll:
Jeb Bush surges to lead GOP pack in new 2016 poll | MSNBC

*** Who gets left off that first debate stage? The NBC/WSJ poll measured 16 GOP candidates in our horserace question. And here are the 10 Republicans who make our poll’s Top 10 – the criteria being used for the first GOP debate in August – and the six who get left off:

1 Jeb Bush 22%
2 Scott Walker 17%
3 Marco Rubio 14%
4 Ben Carson 11%
5 Mike Huckabee 9%
6 Rand Paul 7%
7 Rick Perry 5%
8 Ted Cruz 4%
9 Chris Christie 4%
10 Carly Fiorina 2%
11 Donald Trump 1%
12 Lindsey Graham 1%
13 John Kasich 1%
14 Bobby Jindal 0%
15 Rick Santorum 0%
16 George Pataki 0%

*** Who has upside among GOP voters? And who doesn’t? In addition to the GOP horserace question, our NBC/WSJ asked Republican primary voters this question: Could you see yourselves supporting this candidate or not? The responses are telling:

Rubio: 74% yes, 15% no (+59)
Bush: 75%-22% (+53)
Walker: 57%-19% (+38)
Huckabee: 65%-32% (+33)
Carson: 50%-21% (+29)
Perry: 53%-31% (+22)
Cruz: 51%-31% (+20)
Santorum: 49%-40% (+9)
Jindal: 36%-28% (+8)
Paul: 49%-45% (+4)
Fiorina: 31%-29% (+2)
Kasich: 25%-30% (-5)
Christie: 36%-55% (-19)
Graham: 27%-49% (-22)
Pataki: 13%-44% (-31)
Trump 32%-66% (-34)
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Old 06-22-2015, 06:55 PM
 
Location: Tennessee
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Originally Posted by katzpaw View Post
Trump may not even be eligible for the 1st TV debate.

Summary of recent polls:
2016 National Republican Primary - Polls - HuffPost Pollster

Latest WSJ poll:
Jeb Bush surges to lead GOP pack in new 2016 poll | MSNBC
Are those legit pollsters in your opinion? That is, wouldn't you want to look at actual polling company results rather than polling news organizations? Gallup, Quinnipiac, Pew, Rasmussen, PPP, Zogby, Harris, etc.

It's why I want to discard the Fox News Poll for its own debate.

I don't agree with averaging polls like Real Clear Politics does and the Huffington Post seems to do. You shouldn't do that with pollsters that use different methodology.
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Old 06-22-2015, 07:01 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Bush is really a Blue Dog democrat. There are people here who are staunch liberals who are endorsing him. There is a thread by Old Glory warning republicans not to endorse or vote for Bush because the liberals may vote for him.
Don't vote for Bush under any circumstances. He's a liberal compromiser. He wants comprehensive immigration reform with a path to citizenship for all those Mexcans. Plus he banned the confederate flag in any Florida government building when he was governor. Both of these issues are conservative no-nos. The only chance republicans have is with D. Trump or T. Cruz. Bush won't even use his last name in his campaign. What does that tell you?

No Bush! No Bush! No Bush!
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Old 06-22-2015, 07:21 PM
 
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The lefties are sure worried about Trump. Look at ALL the threads they keep starting.
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Old 06-22-2015, 07:37 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Trump trails Fiorina, one of the worst CEOs in recent memory. That's gotta hurt.
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Old 06-22-2015, 07:52 PM
 
Location: Stasis
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The lefties are sure worried about Trump. Look at ALL the threads they keep starting.
It's the standard defense for marginal candidates:
They attack Cain because they fear him.
They attack Gingrich because they fear him.
They attack Bachmann because they fear her.
They attack Santorum because they fear him.
They attack Trump because they fear him.
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Old 06-22-2015, 10:11 PM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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The lefties are sure worried about Trump. Look at ALL the threads they keep starting.
No, we're making fun of him, he's such a great target.

The man is polling 1% of Republican voters. In what universe could he scare anyone at all?
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Old 06-23-2015, 11:40 AM
 
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No, we're making fun of him, he's such a great target.

The man is polling 1% of Republican voters. In what universe could he scare anyone at all?

^^^^ This.

I'd LOVE LOVE to see him get a spot on the debate stage! It's the GOP candidates that are scared spitless of that scenario.
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Old 06-23-2015, 02:32 PM
 
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Trump trails Fiorina, one of the worst CEOs in recent memory. That's gotta hurt.
You're assuming a capacity for introspection on Trump's part that may or may not be rooted in fact.
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Old 06-23-2015, 02:38 PM
 
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Question Trump is a long shot!

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Trump trails Fiorina, one of the worst CEOs in recent memory. That's gotta hurt.
Trump does have good ideals, but I do not like his tone and as far as I am concern he is just stirring the pot. Maybe for the good, but that remains to be seen?

Fiorina was successful for the record and HP is one best success stories out there.
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