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Old 08-20-2015, 04:10 PM
 
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Both times Ran Paul ran, the media made a HUGE deal out of the newsletter articles that said some pretty racist things...and he apologized when they came out, and made it clear he did not write it or really bother to pay attention to the newsletter. He admitted it was negligence on his part for not paying attention to what was being written under his name. Like most people who have periodicals on the side, he gave the job of publishing it to someone else who then hired freelance writers.

Ron Paul and the racist newsletters (Fact Checker biography) - The Washington Post


But to this day, the media will not let that old, tired story die.


But Bernie Sanders, on the other hand, wrote, signed, took credit for and was proud of an essay about rape and how all women fantasize about being gang-raped It was misogynistic, violent, disgusting, and he admitted he wrote it...and the media has been mostly silent about it.

Bernie Sanders’ rape-fantasy essay reveals left-wing hypocrisy | New York Post


I just don't get it. How the hell can Ron Paul, who was the ONLY candidate to look the camera straight in the face and say "the war on drugs is racist and our criminal justice system is unfair to minorities" is called a racist for something he didn't write, but Bernie Sanders is not called a sexist when he wrote a RAPE FANTASY essay? Why does he get a pass? And you're gonna look at the way both of these candidates are treated differently and NOT tell me there is a liberal bias in the media?
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Old 08-20-2015, 06:52 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Another example of the democrats war on women. Hillarys was worse though. Accepting over 10 million from the Saudis who punish rape victims.
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Old 08-20-2015, 07:00 PM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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They call Ron Paul and Rand Paul racists and they are the two men I can honestly say don't deserve the racist title.
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Old 08-20-2015, 07:15 PM
 
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But Bernie Sanders, on the other hand, wrote, signed, took credit for and was proud of an essay about rape and how all women fantasize about being gang-raped...
Ehm - the essay most certainly does not postulate that "all women fantasize about being gang-raped". Can't tell if you didn't read it or gambled that nobody else would. It's about gender roles and sexuality and very 1970s. The articles in Ron Paul's newsletter favored racism. Sanders' essay can not possibly be twisted into being pro-rape, even by the New York Post. Well, perhaps by them.

In an age were "50 Shades of Grey" sells like hotcakes - to women - you're really going to have a hard time getting the outrage mill going with an essay that postulates that some women enjoy
submissive fantasies.
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Old 08-20-2015, 08:04 PM
 
Location: Washington DC
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Bernie Sanders' essay was about gender equality not misogyny.
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Old 08-20-2015, 11:01 PM
 
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Ehm - the essay most certainly does not postulate that "all women fantasize about being gang-raped". Can't tell if you didn't read it or gambled that nobody else would. It's about gender roles and sexuality and very 1970s. The articles in Ron Paul's newsletter favored racism. Sanders' essay can not possibly be twisted into being pro-rape, even by the New York Post. Well, perhaps by them.

In an age were "50 Shades of Grey" sells like hotcakes - to women - you're really going to have a hard time getting the outrage mill going with an essay that postulates that some women enjoy
submissive fantasies.

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“A woman enjoys intercourse with her man — as she fantasizes being raped by 3 men simultaneously,†Mr. Sanders wrote.
In another passage, he wrote: “Do you know why the newspaper with the articles like, “Girl, 12, raped by 14 men†sell so well? To what in us are they appealing?’’

Source: http://www.nytimes.com/politics/firs...asies-of-rape/


And Ron Paul did not write the articles, unlike Sanders who was proud of that essay at the time. This is Ron Paul on racism:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7hy2HZoPe8




I'm sure that was just dubbed by the vast right-wing conspiracy, and in fact he was dropping "N bombs" the whole time.
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Old 08-20-2015, 11:06 PM
 
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Bernie Sanders' essay was about gender equality not misogyny.
Someone obviously didn't read it.
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Old 08-21-2015, 09:02 AM
 
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Someone obviously didn't read it.
Seeing as you've been quite careful to not link to the actual text - only press pieces with the juicy quotes - I'll do your homework. Her it is, in all its mimeographed glory.

http://www.motherjones.com/files/Man_and_Woman_0.jpg

Anyone walking away from that thinking it's in any way pro-rape simply can't read long sentences. The piece actually decries the idea of there being a power imbalance in sex.

Now, what exactly is it in that piece that you find so disturbing - apart from the clunky prose, that is? Show us the misogyny, if you can.

Are you denying that there are women who indulge in submissive fantasies?
That there are men that insist on being controlling and superior?
That perhaps it's indicative of gender identity and it wouldn't be a bad idea, in the 1970s, to have a conversation on those subjects?


Or did you just jump on a chance to put the word "rape" next the name of a candidate you don't like?
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Old 08-21-2015, 01:00 PM
 
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Seeing as you've been quite careful to not link to the actual text - only press pieces with the juicy quotes - I'll do your homework. Her it is, in all its mimeographed glory.

http://www.motherjones.com/files/Man_and_Woman_0.jpg
So the whole thing is him saying women have to submit to being raped basically, or they can't have a relationship. The man at the end says "you're full of it" and he leaves her...after she fantasies about rape. Yep, that's empowering

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Anyone walking away from that thinking it's in any way pro-rape simply can't read long sentences. The piece actually decries the idea of there being a power imbalance in sex.
And "Birth of a Nation" is about civil rights.

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Now, what exactly is it in that piece that you find so disturbing - apart from the clunky prose, that is? Show us the misogyny, if you can.
Considering it starts off with "
A man goes home and masturbates his typical fantasy. A woman on her knees. A woman tied up. A woman abused."

If it looks like a duck...


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Are you denying that there are women who indulge in submissive fantasies?
No, but do we want Marquis De Sade for president?

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Or did you just jump on a chance to put the word "rape" next the name of a candidate you don't like?
He wrote it himself but the media is basically ignoring it. Ron Paul did not write anything racist but some people with third degree associations with him did and the media didn't let up about it no matter how many times he pointed out that he apologized for what was written by someone else decades ago when it first came out.

And if this was a Republican who did this, ALL HELL would have broken lose
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Old 08-21-2015, 02:21 PM
 
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So the whole thing is him saying women have to submit to being raped basically, or they can't have a relationship. The man at the end says "you're full of it" and he leaves her...after she fantasies about rape. Yep, that's empowering
It is not described as a sound dynamic, one to emulate.

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And "Birth of a Nation" is about civil rights.
Sure. And Uncle Tom's Cabin is pro-slavery. It is in fact possible to describe a situation in order to critcize it.

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No, but do we want Marquis De Sade for president?
It wasn't written to titillate. If that's what you got out of it, well...

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He wrote it himself but the media is basically ignoring it.
You're quoting two newspapers and complaining about a media blackout in the same thread?

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And if this was a Republican who did this, ALL HELL would have broken lose
Well, the chances of a Republican in the 1970s suggesting that gender equality might make for healthier relationships are pretty damn slim, aren't they?
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