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Old 08-28-2015, 12:37 AM
 
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It is opinion, and I stated why and added that we should actually discuss why Democrats have Hillary as a front runner, which added far more to the discussion than you did.
This does not address it either.
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Old 08-28-2015, 12:40 AM
 
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Except, she didnt lie. This entire server debate is ethical, not about legality or practicality, A.K.A. political. No one who was going to vote for her before is voting against her based on this.
America disagrees with you on this.

Poll: 'Liar' Most Frequently Associated Word With Hillary Clinton - ABC News
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Old 08-28-2015, 04:16 AM
 
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On the other hand, here is what the respondents said about your hero:

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Donald Trump – ‘Arrogant’

“Arrogant” was said 58 times for Trump -- who’s still leading the GOP pack with 28 percent support. Other words were “blowhard,” “idiot,” and “clown.”
We'll have a great election between these two.

Mick
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Old 08-28-2015, 07:32 AM
 
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Hillary has the establishment vote and the money and influence. She's looking ahead to lock in delegates and is actively working to undermine Sanders and Biden.

Hillary Clinton 2016: Aims to end Biden talk - POLITICO
Hillary Clinton aims to end Joe Biden talk
The weakened front-runner is going to Democratic elites with one message: My campaign is on track.
You all but said it: Hillary's in real trouble. IMHO it's gonna get worse for her real soon.
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Old 08-28-2015, 09:48 AM
 
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Hillary Clinton is sinking like a lead balloon, and the alternatives, a socialist, and an ancient dude, are the only viable alternatives? Come on! The GOP clown car is overstuffed as expected, but the Democrats really look like they have painted themselves into a corner. WTF?

Can someone explain to me how this is good strategy?
I think it's obvious that the left is a victim of it's own illusions of grandeur. They celebritized Hillary so much that they actually believed that she was inevitable and unstoppable. They never even thought about any alternatives. They were calling her a "guarantee" and that all she had to do was throw her hat into the ring and it was hers for the taking. The Clinton brand name was simply too strong according to the critics. Then toss into the mix that the Dem establishment swore that Obama's fan base would automatically transfer over to her voting block and that would make her an automatic.

They never thought about grooming anyone for those reasons. You had people like Andrew Cuomo and Elizabeth Warren who didn't even want to bother because they didn't even want to waste their time challenging the Clinton hype-machine.

The problem is, everyone took the exam without actually studying. Benghazi, the email scam, the money laundering by the Clinton Foundation is all coming to fruition. Everything that she has been involved in within the course of her resume has some sort of baggage attached to it.


Now look at them, the Dem establishment has hit the panic button; and it's too late for the no-namers to catch up and put their bids in. Hillary is in a flat tail spin. Their last beacon of hope of Ole Poppa Joe Biden. They figure that he has enough of a brand name and some celebritum as VP to still pull of a game winning drive. If not for his position now, they wouldn't even be vetting him.

It's akin to putting in your back up quarterback in the final minutes of the Superbowl after your starting QB went down with a leg injury.

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Old 08-28-2015, 11:09 AM
 
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On the other hand, here is what the respondents said about your hero:



We'll have a great election between these two.
Last time I looked, Trump isn't running as a Democrat which is what this topic is about. You also have no idea who I might consider a hero. Both are just distractions to avoid having to deal with what was said. No matter, I'll address it.....

People don't mind an arrogant President. In fact they'd rather have one when dealing with international affairs. People detest a liar however.
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Old 08-28-2015, 11:18 AM
 
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Talking Strategy, you say...

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Hillary Clinton is sinking like a lead balloon, and the alternatives, a socialist, and an ancient dude, are the only viable alternatives? Come on! The GOP clown car is overstuffed as expected, but the Democrats really look like they have painted themselves into a corner. WTF?

Can someone explain to me how this is good strategy?
No.

It's not possible to explain it to you as presented.

In reality, the election is still more than 14 months in the future.

Stay tuned and watch for further developments.

I predict there will be many. And some will be very amusing.

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Old 08-28-2015, 11:37 AM
 
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People don't mind an arrogant President. In fact they'd rather have one when dealing with international affairs. People detest a liar however.
Liars might be great for when dealing with international affairs.

People make it sound like Mr. Trump is always truthful, but his lifetime track record shows otherwise. I haven't met a real estate developer who is not a liar, but then again, my experience may be unique.

Mick
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Old 08-28-2015, 02:52 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Hillary Clinton is sinking like a lead balloon, and the alternatives, a socialist, and an ancient dude, are the only viable alternatives? Come on! The GOP clown car is overstuffed as expected, but the Democrats really look like they have painted themselves into a corner. WTF?

Can someone explain to me how this is good strategy?
Just because the Republicans have come out early, with a flood of pathetic candidates, doesn't mean that Dems have to respond to their utter nonsense. They have nothing to run on, no record of success, and a low-class orangutan leading their polls.

The Dems have the incredibly great record of President Obama, which continues as we speak. His action says more about Democrats than any Dem candidate. Hillary has not begun campaigning yet, and Republicans have controlled the negative narrative with the fake email scandal. Sanders is keeping the policies which matter in the news. Dems can take their time.

Dems have the current President's record, their successful history and policies, and the superior ideology on their side. Dems have the most brilliant, beloved, successful political figures on their side. Republicans have nothing but failure, bigotry and racism, and inferior policies on their side, along with a great deal of money to try to sucker in votes, gerrymander, and suppress the vote.

It's only August...get control of yourself for God's sake, and relax.
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Old 08-28-2015, 05:38 PM
 
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Just because the Republicans have come out early, with a flood of pathetic candidates, doesn't mean that Dems have to respond to their utter nonsense. They have nothing to run on, no record of success, and a low-class orangutan leading their polls.

The Dems have the incredibly great record of President Obama, which continues as we speak. His action says more about Democrats than any Dem candidate. Hillary has not begun campaigning yet, and Republicans have controlled the negative narrative with the fake email scandal. Sanders is keeping the policies which matter in the news. Dems can take their time.

Dems have the current President's record, their successful history and policies, and the superior ideology on their side. Dems have the most brilliant, beloved, successful political figures on their side. Republicans have nothing but failure, bigotry and racism, and inferior policies on their side, along with a great deal of money to try to sucker in votes, gerrymander, and suppress the vote.

It's only August...get control of yourself for God's sake, and relax.
Are you sure you ain't talking about the Dems in 2015?
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