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Old 10-26-2015, 10:58 AM
 
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"I’ve been told to, and I quote, ‘stop shouting’ about gun violence. First of all I’m not shouting. It’s just sometimes when women talk people think we’re shouting,”
Hillary Clinton

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"I can't think of anything more of an outsider than electing the first woman president"
Hillary Clinton

Soooo, were supposed to believe her gender makes her a more appealing candidate in one instance but in another she's a victim of sexism?
Can't have it both ways! If we have equality, you can claim outrage at sexism but you don't get to claim that your gender makes you a more appealing candidate.
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Old 10-26-2015, 11:03 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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You know what? This woman just cannot stop being a drama queen and hateful

Clinton apparently referred to a moment in the Democratic debate when Sanders said that “all the shouting in the world” will not improve gun laws.

“I’ve been told to stop shouting about guns,” Clinton said to cheers. “Actually I haven’t been shouting, but sometimes when a woman talks, some people think it’s shouting!”

Bernie sanders NEVER disrespect women and said women like to shout.

She is such a drama queen. Plays Gender card is really getting old. I am a girl, and I won't vote for Bernie. But I like the old grandpa. He is not a sexist or a hateful man.

She is a drama queen and a career politician who will use every trick in the book to get rid of the honorable old Bernie Sanders.
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Old 10-26-2015, 11:10 AM
 
Location: Eastern Tennessee
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You know what? This woman just cannot stop being a drama queen and hateful

Clinton apparently referred to a moment in the Democratic debate when Sanders said that “all the shouting in the world” will not improve gun laws.

“I’ve been told to stop shouting about guns,” Clinton said to cheers. “Actually I haven’t been shouting, but sometimes when a woman talks, some people think it’s shouting!”

Bernie sanders NEVER disrespect women and said women like to shout.

She is such a drama queen. Plays Gender card is really getting old. I am a girl, and I won't vote for Bernie. But I like the old grandpa. He is not a sexist or a hateful man.

She is a drama queen and a career politician who will use every trick in the book to get rid of the honorable old Bernie Sanders.
Hillary is no spring chicken herself. He is 74, she is 69.
And, I, too, am tired of HRC's twisting of facts.
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Old 10-26-2015, 11:10 AM
 
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You know what? This woman just cannot stop being a drama queen and hateful

Clinton apparently referred to a moment in the Democratic debate when Sanders said that “all the shouting in the world” will not improve gun laws.

“I’ve been told to stop shouting about guns,” Clinton said to cheers. “Actually I haven’t been shouting, but sometimes when a woman talks, some people think it’s shouting!”

Bernie sanders NEVER disrespect women and said women like to shout.

She is such a drama queen. Plays Gender card is really getting old. I am a girl, and I won't vote for Bernie. But I like the old grandpa. He is not a sexist or a hateful man.

She is a drama queen and a career politician who will use every trick in the book to get rid of the honorable old Bernie Sanders.
Yes, you are a girl. Women who have struggled in the working world for the last 40 or 50 years understand what Hillary is talking about. A man can say something and be deemed "forceful," and a woman who says the same thing is called "shrill" or "bitchy." You are young, so you haven't experienced a lot of this yet, and you may not to the same degree because of all the women who came before you and broke the ground for you.

You're welcome.
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Old 10-26-2015, 11:21 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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Yes, you are a girl. Women who have struggled in the working world for the last 40 or 50 years understand what Hillary is talking about. A man can say something and be deemed "forceful," and a woman who says the same thing is called "shrill" or "bitchy." You are young, so you haven't experienced a lot of this yet, and you may not to the same degree because of all the women who came before you and broke the ground for you.

You're welcome.
what is she complaining about? that bernie sanders is attacking all women for shouting?

whatever. Maybe you should read op's article before lecturing me.

Bernie sanders has never disrespected women. She is a damn drama queen if she used Bernie sander's remark as a example of disrespect of all women.

She said "It’s just sometimes when women talk people think we’re shouting"

No, that not what Bernie sanders meant, Bernie sanders said " “all the shouting in the world” will not improve gun laws" It has NOTHING to do with women or men. She made it a Gender issue. drama queen alert.
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Old 10-26-2015, 11:31 AM
 
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Yes, you are a girl. Women who have struggled in the working world for the last 40 or 50 years understand what Hillary is talking about. A man can say something and be deemed "forceful," and a woman who says the same thing is called "shrill" or "bitchy." You are young, so you haven't experienced a lot of this yet, and you may not to the same degree because of all the women who came before you and broke the ground for you.

You're welcome.

That's fine but the point is, it doesn't work both ways.
She doesn't get to complain about a sexist reaction when we are supposed to have an equal playing field between the two genders and then play up HER gender as a benefit to her candidacy.

I also agree with lilyflower3191981 that I highly doubt that was Bernie Sander's intention. But, hey! Why let facts stand in the way of scoring some cheap political points, especially after he DEFENDED her in the email scandal by saying the American people were tired of hearing about it.
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Old 10-26-2015, 11:33 AM
 
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what is she complaining about? that bernie sanders is attacking all women for shouting?

whatever. Maybe you should read op's article before lecturing me.

Bernie sanders has never disrespected women. She is a damn drama queen if she used Bernie sander's remark as a example of disrespect of all women.

She said "It’s just sometimes when women talk people think we’re shouting"

No, that not what Bernie sanders meant, Bernie sanders said " “all the shouting in the world” will not improve gun laws" It has NOTHING to do with women or men. She made it a Gender issue. drama queen alert.
I'm not lecturing you, I'm telling you why Hillary said what she said. If you choose to pretend that there is no sexism in the workplace anymore, or that she won't be held to standards that men are not, well, life will teach you otherwise eventually.
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Old 10-26-2015, 11:34 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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I'm not lecturing you, I'm telling you why Hillary said what she said. If you choose to pretend that there is no sexism in the workplace anymore, or that she won't be held to standards that men are not, well, life will teach you otherwise eventually.
Please read the OP, it was about ONE particular remark

"all the shouting..." and Hillary turned it into a Gender issue.

I've never pretended there is no sexism in the workplace, but Bernie's particular remark has absolutely NOTHING to do with Gender.

Did Hillary play Gender card in this PARTICULAR CASE? she absolutely did.

Drama queen alert.
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Old 10-26-2015, 11:35 AM
 
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Hillary is no spring chicken herself. He is 74, she is 69.
And, I, too, am tired of HRC's twisting of facts.

you would rather go back to bush and cheney lying to us?
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Old 10-26-2015, 11:42 AM
 
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Originally Posted by lilyflower3191981 View Post
Please read the OP, it was about ONE particular remark

"all the shouting..." and Hillary turned it into a Gender issue.

I've never Pretend there is no sexism in the workplace, but Bernie's particular remark has absolutely NOTHING to do with Gender.

Did Hillary play Gender card in this PARTICULAR CASE? she absolutely did.

Drama queen alert.
Again, you choose not to understand what she was saying in the larger context. I'm a Bernie supporter, by the way. He's my first choice. But I'm also a woman and I understand where Hillary was coming from. As, I'm sure, do millions of other women. And the GOP dismisses that as merely "playing the gender card" to their detriment.
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