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Old 02-03-2016, 01:17 PM
 
Location: Self explanatory
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We need BOTH parties to do better, much better, so we don't see such disapproval ratings across the board.
I wish more people realized this.

It's not a matter of right or left, but right and wrong.

 
Old 02-03-2016, 02:19 PM
 
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Default Right and wrong...

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Originally Posted by Old Town FFX View Post
I wish more people realized this.

It's not a matter of right or left, but right and wrong.
I think we all agree, but as they say..., "the Devil is in the details."

If all Americans could simply vote for right vs wrong, I suspect right would win by a landslide, but let each person provide their definition of what is right vs wrong, and we begin to witness the gridlock of agreement that gives Congress its very poor ratings. For the most part, the most vocal and strong-willed folks simply cannot agree to disagree, and who can blame them (us)? We all know that "giving an inch" runs that risk of losing a mile, and who wants to make that sort of trade?

Politics is not about right or wrong, I'm not even sure it is about left or right. Right now politics is about special interests and their power to have their way. If you are not one of those who can pay that $10,000 for a seat at the fund raiser dinner, then maybe your one vote come election day will make the difference...

Good luck with that!
 
Old 02-03-2016, 07:39 PM
 
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Martin O

Any mention of O'Malley dropping out putting support behind Bernie. Bernie has the support of Joe and Martin!!! Woot Woot!
 
Old 02-03-2016, 11:59 PM
 
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Martin O

Any mention of O'Malley dropping out putting support behind Bernie. Bernie has the support of Joe and Martin!!! Woot Woot!
One of several hundred commentators responding to a daily kos article is not exactly a reliable source. Even less so when s/he prefaces the comment by saying IMHO.
What else ya got?
 
Old 02-04-2016, 07:01 AM
 
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Hillary is closing in according to UMass Lowell daily tracking:

RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - New Hampshire 2016 Democratic Primary
1 Feb: sanders +31
2 Feb: sanders +33
3 Feb: sanders +29
4 Feb: sanders +22
 
Old 02-04-2016, 07:02 AM
 
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I think it will sink to single digit lead by end of week as NH voters have habit of deciding in the last week
 
Old 02-04-2016, 07:55 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Hillary is closing in according to UMass Lowell daily tracking:

RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - New Hampshire 2016 Democratic Primary
1 Feb: sanders +31
2 Feb: sanders +33
3 Feb: sanders +29
4 Feb: sanders +22
of course it is going to get closer. No one really expects anyone to win a primary by 30 plus or even 20 plus points. It still looks like Sanders has this one in the bag. Now for the real competition.
 
Old 02-04-2016, 08:23 AM
 
Location: Denver CO
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New Hampshire does like to support their neighbors. The only time in recent memory that the candidate from a neighboring state didn't win was Howard Dean, because he lost to a candidate from a different neighboring state - John Kerry!

I agree it's likely to finalize out in a single digit win for Bernie, and then we move on to the rest of the country. Super Tuesday will give a much clearer indication of where things are heading.
 
Old 02-04-2016, 09:43 AM
 
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New Hampshire does like to support their neighbors. The only time in recent memory that the candidate from a neighboring state didn't win was Howard Dean, because he lost to a candidate from a different neighboring state - John Kerry!
How many neighboring Democratic candidates have won in recent memory? John Kerry and who else? I think people are pushing this media narrative a little too hard. Even if they are neighbors its not like NH has an uneducated and uninformed electorate. They think things through carefully when they vote. And they still are only a few miles from Clinton's home state as well, so it's not like there is some huge geographic gap here.

I think a more reasonable explanation for Sanders' strong showing is that NH is a very independent-minded state. Sanders is also leading big in Alaska for example according to a poll I've seen. Independents overwhelmingly support Sanders over Clinton in all national polls.

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Old 02-04-2016, 09:58 AM
 
Location: Denver CO
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Kerry in 2004, Paul Tsongas in 1992, Mike Dukakis in 1988. When there has been a neighboring New England state candidate, they've won the NH primary since the late 1980s.
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