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Old 02-05-2016, 11:32 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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Bernie is certainty better than Hillary in the trustworthiness department.
He tells it like he sees it, and lets the chips fall where they may. I can certainly respect that even if I disagree with him.


So who is left for the (D's) to vote for?


Any of them voting for Hillary would need to be brain-dead, especially gun owners. Believe it or not, there are still some normal voters in the (D) party that are not left wing, social justice, gun grabbing kooks. They may not like Bernie, but certainly cannot vote for Hillary either. So they will be left with the choice of voting (R) depending on who the (R) nominee is, or not voting at all.


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People will vote for someone who is authentic and someone who they can finally believe.

Bernie.
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Old 02-05-2016, 11:33 AM
 
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Clinton is a liar, Bernie did actually believe the above.
Bernie failed again..
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Old 02-05-2016, 11:38 AM
 
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Bernie is certainty better than Hillary in the trustworthiness department.
He tells it like he sees it, and lets the chips fall where they may. I can certainly respect that even if I disagree with him.


So who is left for the (D's) to vote for?


Any of them voting for Hillary would need to be brain-dead, especially gun owners. Believe it or not, there are still some normal voters in the (D) party that are not left wing, social justice, gun grabbing kooks. They may not like Bernie, but certainly cannot vote for Hillary either. So they will be left with the choice of voting (R) depending on who the (R) nominee is, or not voting at all.


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...and that is the problem with the whole Democratic party. The party of "hope, progress and change" has an old, criminal, career politician and an even older nut job socialist as its only choices. Yea, thats progress and change lol Where are the young, fresh Marco Rubio types? Nowhere to be found. I feel sorry for people who can only choose between a habitually lying criminal and a crazy socialist. I think we may see a large number of Democrats switching parties this year as rumors have suggested.
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Old 02-05-2016, 11:51 AM
 
Location: Austin TX
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...and that is the problem with the whole Democratic party. The party of "hope, progress and change" has an old, criminal, career politician and an even older nut job socialist as its only choices. Yea, thats progress and change lol Where are the young, fresh Marco Rubio types? Nowhere to be found. I feel sorry for people who can only choose between a habitually lying criminal and a crazy socialist. I think we may see a large number of Democrats switching parties this year as rumors have suggested.
I agree with so much of this. And there are plenty of Democrats who feel that they have watched their party leave them, not the other way around. It's just swung too far left for me, personally. I'm in approval of the social issues that have been accomplished under Obama's terms, but it's just swung too far left now, and I want to see the ship righted just a bit. We need to get our economics and foreign policy back in order and I do feel the Republican party might serve better at this task for the next 8 years. I'm still undecided and it will be a first but I may vote R for the first time this year.
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Old 02-05-2016, 11:57 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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...and that is the problem with the whole Democratic party. The party of "hope, progress and change" has an old, criminal, career politician and an even older nut job socialist as its only choices. Yea, thats progress and change lol Where are the young, fresh Marco Rubio types? Nowhere to be found. I feel sorry for people who can only choose between a habitually lying criminal and a crazy socialist. I think we may see a large number of Democrats switching parties this year as rumors have suggested.
You figure because Rubio looks good and accurately mouths the words the Establishment scripts for him (which changes weekly), he would be a fine President? In other words, you like lying politicians because they say what you want to hear And they can say it with a pleasant smile. Well, it's a POV. In which case Clinton would work for you equally well.

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Old 02-05-2016, 12:42 PM
 
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Bernie failed again..
He did because not enough would join him in doing the right thing.
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Old 02-05-2016, 12:52 PM
 
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He did because not enough would join him in doing the right thing.
But he's supposed to lead the country..
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Old 02-05-2016, 01:06 PM
 
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But he's supposed to lead the country..
Yes, as president he can do more. Does this really have to be explained to you? Seriously?
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Old 02-05-2016, 01:39 PM
 
Location: In Transition
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Bernie's biggest job held was as Chairman of the Veteran's Affairs Committee and he indisputably failed miserably. There were allegations of abuses coming in for years that he plain ignored and did not investigate. Siding with the protection of union workers over the health and lives of our veterans. The VA scandal was as bad as it was, because he was arguably the worst chairman in the history of the VA.

So the logic goes...Bernie can't run a government committee, so we should put him in charge of the entire nation?!?!

Bernie Sanders failed to act in deadly VA scandal, whistleblower says - Watchdog.org

Bernie Sanders stuns nation with response to VA hospital scandal - Watchdog.org

Sanders stretched truth on VA record, some vets groups say - CNNPolitics.com

Yes, Bernie failed miserably at running something tiny, but he will offer us free stuff if he is in charge of everything!
What exactly did you want Bernie Sanders to do about the situation? Please be specific.
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Old 02-05-2016, 02:28 PM
 
Location: Beautiful British Columbia 🇨🇦
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Regardless of my or your views on his policies, you gotta admit that Bernie Sanders the only one in the race who is a trustworthy, genuine, honest person. Aren't those qualities important in a president? We need to show politicians that we're sick of putting up with people who don't actually care about average citizens. And frankly the other candidates would be complete war hawks anyway.
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