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Old 04-17-2016, 09:11 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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Originally Posted by middle-aged mom View Post
It was his job to defend the "state's right to regulate the morality of its people".

He mentions this case in his book.




I do not care for any of the candidates and have no horse in this race.
“There is no substantive due-process right to stimulate one’s genitals for non-medical purposes unrelated to procreation or outside of an interpersonal relationship.” ~ Ted Cruz

They eventually lost.Ted Cruz's doomed war on sex toys and masturbation

 
Old 04-17-2016, 09:12 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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Originally Posted by BentBow View Post
There is no law in Texas, that bans the sale of "sex toys"


Is this some made up, GOTCHA?
Google is your friend Tex. https://www.google.com/search?q=Cruz...hrome&ie=UTF-8
 
Old 04-17-2016, 09:13 AM
 
Location: Gods country
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Geez, this is reminiscent of sharia law, must be a load of fun to be part of his family.
 
Old 04-17-2016, 09:17 AM
 
Location: United States
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Wow, what`s up his ***?
What's not up there is more relevant.
 
Old 04-17-2016, 09:45 AM
 
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Yeah, either that or... he was doing the job people were paying him to do in Texas.
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Cruz's job was to defend Texas law in federal court, that's why he was there of course.
Kinda my point. Our advocate for small government literally advocated the exact opposite, taking the side of government's right to micromanage how the constituents achieved climax because his paycheck depended on it. So - anyone stop to wonder who'll be able to sign the biggest checks during a Cruz presidency?
 
Old 04-17-2016, 09:46 AM
 
Location: Kansas
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Originally Posted by jojajn View Post
Just what we need, more government in our bedrooms from the party of small government!


As solicitor general, Ted Cruz argued people have no legal right to use sex toys - Chicago Tribune
Well, if the "alleged" affairs are true, Ted prefers the "real" thing. Cruz wants to move the US toward a Christian theocracy and that would be part of what he would promote, probably while his personal assistant was underneath his desk.............

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110% lawyer. The state of Texas pays the fees, the state of Texas wants to ban sex toys, Ted Cruz will argue that sex toys should be banned, on principle. Next week, when someone else pays the fees, he'll argue that sex toys should be legal, on principle. And he'll never, ever understand why people hold him in contempt over it.
That would be Cruz's standing operating procedure.

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Originally Posted by Kaphawoman View Post
Man. No wonder they found Heidi crying by the side of the highway.
Funny, but I think it had more to do with Ted using the "real" thing than Ted tossing her "toys". They spent a LOT of time apart.

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Originally Posted by middle-aged mom View Post
It was his job to defend the "state's right to regulate the morality of its people".

He mentions this case in his book.




I do not care for any of the candidates and have no horse in this race.
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I have been in Texas since after the war.

There are sex stores, Zone Erotica, types all over the place.

If Ted and the state are so hell bent on defending Texas law, why has their method of school taxation and distribution been held illegal for 25 years? Every year, the lege says, yeah we know,it is illegal, but we are gonna do it anyway. There are schools districts all over the state suing the state. Where was Ted? All sides are pissing off taxpayer dollars.
Because it is the intent of Cruz to move our government to a Christian theocracy. It wants school voucher to move "Christians" to religious schools and to heck with the students in the public schools. He has an agenda and it is wicked and VERY un-American.

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Originally Posted by NewbieHere View Post
This is Ted Cruz alone, nothing to do with Texas. He makes Texas look bad.
I read something interesting about how he was elected as a Senator with so few votes, so maybe they'll rid themselves of the plague that he is.

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Ted lost. The state decided not to take it to the SCOTUS.

The source for the story is Ted's own obligatory candidate book.

He is passionate about intimacy being only for purposes of procreation.

He likened the use of " toys" to prostitution and condemned automatous gratification.
Only for "procreation", well, since they appear to have completed their family, there is a reason for his wife wanting to walk into traffic! I could see how he would condemn them and know for a fact that they were likened to prostitution and realize how hard it is to break an addiction to such a behavior. Old "holier than thou" Cruz.

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Originally Posted by I_Like_Spam View Post
He was doing his job, and there is no reason to think that Mr. Cruz didn't think the Texas prohibition against sex toys was constitutional.


Whether or not sex toys should be legal or not wasn't the question at bar, it was whether the current law was permitted under the constitution. I'm sure that if the case was reheard today, Cruz would have the same opinion
Well, it would probably be the first time Cruz would have the same opinion on something. It just depends on who is financing him at the moment.

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Originally Posted by le roi View Post
I loathe Ted Cruz

But at the same time, I have to accept the rationale his PR person gave. It was his job to defend the Texas Legislature's decision, whether he agreed with it or not.

Although if he had any principles, he would have resigned from that job rather than argue something that is completely nuts.
If Cruz had principles, I might be supporting him. "Holier than thou", we all know the fable that is with Cruz.

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Originally Posted by jojajn View Post
Some reporter should outright ask Cruz just where he stands on sex toys. God knows, that is such an important issue that tax payer money should be spent fighting against these!
As we know, the candidates have all been picked apart on a personal level. This is ploy to make the people forget the pressing issues.

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Maybe he is just jealous.
Again, I think he prefers the "real" thing. He spends a LOT of time away from home.

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Originally Posted by jojajn View Post
“There is no substantive due-process right to stimulate one’s genitals for non-medical purposes unrelated to procreation or outside of an interpersonal relationship.” ~ Ted Cruz

They eventually lost.Ted Cruz's doomed war on sex toys and masturbation
"Outside of an interpersonal relationship"? Interesting way of putting it for someone accused of affairs.

With separation of church and state, I don't see any issue to be debated. Unfortunately, Cruz wants to take away our right to practice any religion or no religion at all and replace our republic with a Christian theocracy.

Ted Cruz's campaign is fueled by a dominionist vision for America (COMMENTARY) - Religion News Service

Does Cruz seem sort of obsessed with all things "sexual"?
 
Old 04-17-2016, 09:55 AM
 
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Three things are very interesting:


One, it is unbelievable how much the "party of small government" wants to be involved in our bedrooms.


Two, it is amazing that the repubs think such a candidate has even a small chance in the general election.



And exactly how long will it be before Rafael Cruz is involved in a sex scandal?
My bet is Don Trump has evidence of Rafael "the kink" Cruz that suddenly appears just before the convention.
 
Old 04-17-2016, 10:02 AM
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Yeah, either that or... he was doing the job people were paying him to do in Texas.


Is it really true that he's obligated to defend it?

I'm genuinely asking.

It's pretty easy to find examples of states declining to defend state laws and constitutional amendments, but maybe Texas removes all discretion from his office.

The obligation argument seems like nonsense. The law was initially shot down by a three judge panel. Cruz then tried to get the full appeals court to hear it, which was rejected. Then he used his discretion to drop the whole thing rather than try to take it to the supreme court. So clearly he has some discretion in how far to take a case.
 
Old 04-17-2016, 10:14 AM
 
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You think the collective and very progressive, Robinhood School funding, is somehow Ted's fault.... I got news for you. The democrats have run the school funding since the days of Ann Richards. Not until recently, did the Robinhood plan get challenged by Conservatives.
Somebody better tell Dan Patrick, The SBOE, the TEA, the lege and the Governor.
 
Old 04-17-2016, 10:22 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Just what we need, more government in our bedrooms from the party of small government!

As solicitor general, Ted Cruz argued people have no legal right to use sex toys - Chicago Tribune
Well there goes the porn vote.
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