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Old 05-18-2016, 09:35 AM
 
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I don't think she is that bad, u read too much from conspiracists-.-
Conspiracists? The favorite argument from people who dont have an argument. A conspiracy is not needed when there are CONVERGING INTERESTS. Big business media WILL be in massive economic difficulties if Bernie Sanders gets his way and make it possible for anyone to run for office without having to beg the rich for money. In other words, public funding of elections and MORE democracy is a threat to Time Warner, Comcast and all the other media corporations.
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Old 05-18-2016, 09:42 AM
 
Location: TN/NC
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She's in a world of hurt but will certainly get the Democratic nomination. It's rather ironic how the tide has turned. Just a few weeks ago, the Dems were talking with glee about how the Republican convention was going to be brokered and in chaos. Now the Reps are unifying with Trump being the certain nominee and the Dems are facing a very ugly convention with Bernie supporters promising to riot. This summer will be very interesting.
The Democrats are going to crack up and Trump is going to win a 5%-10% blowout.
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Old 05-18-2016, 09:53 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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The Democrats are going to crack up and Trump is going to win a 5%-10% blowout.
5% would certainly not be a blowout. The thing we all need to remember states like Ca for so many electoral votes will almost for sure go to Hillary. Many of the populous state will. This is where Trump gets hurt. So unless something we are not seeing happens between now and Nov he will not come anywhere close to winning by 10%. At least I don't see it happening, but I have been dead wrong more times than right.
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Old 05-18-2016, 09:55 AM
 
Location: Denver CO
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Her 2008 blue collar Democrat voters voted "uncommitted" in the presidential contest last night. Even MSNBC was shocked when it was displayed on a map. They are all in Eastern Kentucky coal country.
Those were counties where Bernie won, not Hillary. In the counties where Hillary won, the percent of uncommitted were very low. These are voters who aren't voting for a Dem in November regardless of which one, but unlike WV, they had the option to vote uncommitted and they took it because they didn't want to vote for Bernie or Hillary.

As for why, it was discussed upthread - it's racism. These votes when to Hillary in 2008 because they were anti-Obama votes. Now that Hillary has run on continuing the Obama policies and on his legacy, she's not getting those votes.
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Old 05-18-2016, 10:56 AM
 
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They seem to be reluctant to publish exit polls from Kentucky. I've said before that if an election is close enough, they can swing it a few points or even a point to get that magic 51 to 49 percentage winning number. But if its a double digit lead, they can't get away with it. Any pro Hillary shenanigans in Kentucky?
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Old 05-18-2016, 11:04 AM
 
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They seem to be reluctant to publish exit polls from Kentucky. I've said before that if an election is close enough, they can swing it a few points or even a point to get that magic 51 to 49 percentage winning number. But if its a double digit lead, they can't get away with it. Any pro Hillary shenanigans in Kentucky?
There were no exit polls taken in KY. As far as I know only a couple of small ones were done in OR by local media there. The organizations that pay for the exit polls aren't wasting money on polling small primaries because they don't impact the delegate count. We might see some resurgence of polling interest in the CA and NJ primaries.
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Old 05-18-2016, 01:18 PM
 
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Kentucky has turned into a YUGE disaster for Hillary.

She's driving millions away from the Democrat party.

KENTUCKY FREE FALL: Hillary Loses Quarter of a Million Votes from Her 2008 Primary Win
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Old 05-18-2016, 01:27 PM
 
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Kentucky has turned into a YUGE disaster for Hillary.

She's driving millions away from the Democrat party.

KENTUCKY FREE FALL: Hillary Loses Quarter of a Million Votes from Her 2008 Primary Win
Kentucky has been a safe red state for a long time, so I don't expect 2016 to be any different.
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Old 05-18-2016, 03:29 PM
 
Location: on the edge of Sanity
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Kentucky has turned into a YUGE disaster for Hillary.

She's driving millions away from the Democrat party.

[URL="http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/05/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-drop-cant-win-kentucky/"]KENTUCKY FREE FALL: Hillary Loses Quarter of a Million Votes from Her 2008 Primary Win[/URL]
That's only because she's backed Obama and they don't like him in WV.
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Kentucky has been a safe red state for a long time, so I don't expect 2016 to be any different.
I agree.
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As for why, it was discussed upthread - it's racism. These votes when to Hillary in 2008 because they were anti-Obama votes. Now that Hillary has run on continuing the Obama policies and on his legacy, she's not getting those votes.
Agree. It's a combination of racism and, in some areas, his policies on the coal industry.
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Old 05-18-2016, 03:31 PM
 
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That's only because she's backed Obama and they don't like him in WV. I agree.
So has Arizona. Yet Sanders is polling better than Trump in Arizona in general election match-ups. Same in Georgia and other states.
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