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Old 05-19-2016, 05:41 PM
 
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As a Republican, I hope she's the nominee. Trump is going to beat her like a drum.
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Old 05-19-2016, 05:44 PM
 
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As a Republican, I hope she's the nominee. Trump is going to beat her like a drum.
So I guess you are in for a disappointment then huh? :X
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Old 05-19-2016, 05:48 PM
 
Location: Renton - Fairwood, Washington
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So I guess you are in for a disappointment then huh? :X
I dunno... over the last 60 years the American people haven't put the same party in the Oval Office for 3 straight terms all that often. It's happened only once actually... Reagan 80, 84, Bush 88.

In ever other case starting with JFK in 1960, Nixon in 1968, Carter in 1976, Clinton in 1992 (following the 3 terms I just mentioned) , Bush in 2000 and Obama in 2008...

... the other party got elected.

Somehow I just don't see Hillary getting a 3rd Democratic term... and the trend says she won't.
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Old 05-19-2016, 05:49 PM
 
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I dunno... over the last 60 years the American people haven't put the same party in the Oval Office for 3 straight terms all that often. It's happened only once actually... Reagan 80, 84, Bush 88.

In ever other case starting with JFK in 1960, Nixon in 1968, Carter in 1976, Clinton in 1992 (following the 3 terms I just mentioned) , Bush in 2000 and Obama in 2008...

... the other party got elected.

Somehow I just don't see Hillary getting a 3rd Democratic term... and the trend says she won't.
That's very true. However, demographics make the GOPs job increasingly harder as the share of the white vote decreases and the minority vote increases. They have to do better to even do as well as they did the previous election. Trump can't even get the 58 percent of white voters that Romney got to maintain the same levels. He has to get Ronald Reagan like numbers to stay competitive or even win. That's not saying he can't but it does give the Dems the advantage.
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Old 05-19-2016, 06:02 PM
 
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I dunno... over the last 60 years the American people haven't put the same party in the Oval Office for 3 straight terms all that often. It's happened only once actually... Reagan 80, 84, Bush 88.

In ever other case starting with JFK in 1960, Nixon in 1968, Carter in 1976, Clinton in 1992 (following the 3 terms I just mentioned) , Bush in 2000 and Obama in 2008...

... the other party got elected.

Somehow I just don't see Hillary getting a 3rd Democratic term... and the trend says she won't.
Nixon/Ford, Carter, and the Bushes were all remarkably unpopular Presidents. Dems followed them all. Reagan was popular, Bush followed him.
Al Gore followed uber-popular Clinton and won the popular vote, might have survived the electoral college battle had he not opted out.
The only trend is that popular Presidents help their party's next nominee, unpopular Presidents don't. No surprise there. Obama is a popular President so the trend favors Clinton.
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Old 05-19-2016, 06:09 PM
 
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Nixon/Ford, Carter, and the Bushes were all remarkably unpopular Presidents. Dems followed them all. Reagan was popular, Bush followed him.
Al Gore followed uber-popular Clinton and won the popular vote, might have survived the electoral college battle had he not opted out.
The only trend is that popular Presidents help their party's next nominee, unpopular Presidents don't. No surprise there. Obama is a popular President so the trend favors Clinton.
Or Ralph Nader didn't take a lot of the liberal vote from him.
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Old 05-19-2016, 06:11 PM
 
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Or Ralph Nader didn't take a lot of the liberal vote from him.
True, in fact that was the largest single factor!
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Old 05-19-2016, 06:14 PM
 
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hillary will be the nomineee

whether you people want it or not. She will also be the first woman president

hillary/castro 2016
Okay, thanks for telling us there, guy!
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Old 05-19-2016, 06:51 PM
 
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She got 18 million votes in 2008 and still didn't get the nomination, that's why some SD endorse her at the beginning, it's actually very reasonable. Sanders got like 20 endorsements too before the primary started. If she no longer does well this year, they can easily switch support to sanders
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Old 05-19-2016, 07:23 PM
 
Location: Renton - Fairwood, Washington
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Obama is a popular President so the trend favors Clinton.
Yeah I heard that too... something about 2,300,000 people showed up to his inauguration in 2009 and only 4 of them missed work.

So he's popular among the black vote... that's a given... it's why he was elected after all. What else?
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