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It's pretty clear from the current media dialogue, that the campaign is all about Trump haters vs. Hillary haters. Both sides are locked in to vote for their candidate, it seems pretty much along party lines and any facts or lies notwithstanding. So, who will independents vote for? It seems neither Trump nor Hillary are playing to anyone but their base.
I am an Independent that switched to Democrat status in December to vote for Sanders in the April Primaries of my State. It's clear Bernie won't win the nominee. So I am not 100% sure who to vote for. I am thinking Stein, but the experience and how much of a dent that vote will make deters me a bit. Johnson will probably be on all the States ballots so maybe I'll vote for him.
I can't trust Hillary and I am worried about Trump's ideas.
I think it will come down to who will turn out their base.
Look at 2012. Romney got 93% of the Republican vote (Mr. Trump won't come close to that), and 50% of the Independent vote. Obama got 92% of the Democratic vote (Hillary won't get that) and 45% of the Independent vote.
So Obama lost the Independent vote and almost all of the Republican vote. How the hell did he still win in a landslide by 5 million popular votes and 126 electoral votes? Tons more Democrats voting in the election, that's how.
Independents, therefore, may be overrated. Of course, they can be the difference maker in a close election. A lot more people will sit out the election for sure (or vote for a silly third party candidate) in 2016, and that's going to be a factor, and there will be more cross-over votes (though not as much as Trump supporters think, especially if you net out Republican defections).
Independants, true indepandants that is, will have a tendancy to look at the real direction of the country, and vote their conscience.
If there are real independants out there, that have NOT been polarized like most of the rest, they will indeed determine the outcome.
As an independent, I will look at the direction of the country in a negative. A vote for any Democrat/socialist candidate will only perpetuate the status quo. So I'd have to vote "other".
That's not to say "other" is an entirely attractive choice.......but it is a chance that it may go in a more positive direction than the socialists have taken us in, as opposed to only getting worse with the status quo.
The independants this year should tell us just how far gone to whichever side of the spectrum this country is, and if there's any hope for redemption.
I think it will come down to who will turn out their base.
Look at 2012. Romney got 93% of the Republican vote (Mr. Trump won't come close to that), and 50% of the Independent vote. Obama got 92% of the Democratic vote (Hillary won't get that) and 45% of the Independent vote.
So Obama lost the Independent vote and almost all of the Republican vote. How the hell did he still win in a landslide by 5 million popular votes and 126 electoral votes? Tons more Democrats voting in the election, that's how.
Independents, therefore, may be overrated. Of course, they can be the difference maker in a close election. A lot more people will sit out the election for sure (or vote for a silly third party candidate) in 2016, and that's going to be a factor, and there will be more cross-over votes (though not as much as Trump supporters think, especially if net out Republican defections).
Mick
I just don't see Hillary having the same affect, if anything, fear of a Trump presidency may be a driving factor. IDK- this thing is just getting started and it's no doubt going to get nasty, I'm pretty sure by the time voters enter the booth, they'll be holding their noses and pulling the lever (or punching their chads).
I just don't see Hillary having the same affect, if anything, fear of a Trump presidency may be a driving factor. IDK- this thing is just getting started and it's no doubt going to get nasty, I'm pretty sure by the time voters enter the booth, they'll be holding their noses and pulling the lever (or punching their chads).
For Hillary to win, it is critical that the race be considered neck-and-neck. Otherwise, the anti-Trumpers (of all party affiliations) might just stay home if they thought it would be a landslide in either direction. Let's keep it uber close.
Mick
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