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Old 06-01-2016, 08:59 AM
 
Location: CT
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Which would be over 500% of what he got in 2012.

Mick
Yeah but the perfect storm is brewing, this may be the year the LP gets enough press to get their platform out there in the MSM (which the Donald so indignantly resents).
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Old 06-01-2016, 09:03 AM
 
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Yeah but the perfect storm is brewing, this may be the year the LP gets enough press to get their platform out there in the MSM (which the Donald so indignantly resents).
Which is funny - considering all of the free press he received from MSM.
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Old 06-01-2016, 09:03 AM
 
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You mean the guy who was elected governor can only get 5%? Weld got 72% of the vote in Massachussetts when he was governor, I believe that is their historical record. Their support is way over 5%, the question is can they translate that into votes.
Weld will not impact Johnson's performance, and is thoroughly irrelevant.
Johnson's range, from 1.5-5% will depend on other factors.
Those are national tallies, not Electoral College outcomes.
The Johnson/Weld ticket has absolutely no chance of winning a state.
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Old 06-01-2016, 09:18 AM
 
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Weld will not impact Johnson's performance, and is thoroughly irrelevant.
Johnson's range, from 1.5-5% will depend on other factors.
Those are national tallies, not Electoral College outcomes.
The Johnson/Weld ticket has absolutely no chance of winning a state.
That may end up being true but the same was said about Trump this time last year.
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Old 06-01-2016, 09:32 AM
 
Location: Denver CO
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I live in a purple swing state and I definitely will get polled in the fall. I'm tempted to say I'm supporting Gary Johnson just to help him get to 15%. I would not vote for a LP candidate, but I would be happy to see them get a place at the table.

As to whether they pull more from Dems or from GOP, I think that's highly debatable. I personally feel they are closer to GOP with two former GOP govs on their ticket, and will take more of those votes once Dems start to unify (which is what explains Trump's current bump).
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Old 06-01-2016, 09:49 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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I live in a purple swing state and I definitely will get polled in the fall. I'm tempted to say I'm supporting Gary Johnson just to help him get to 15%. I would not vote for a LP candidate, but I would be happy to see them get a place at the table.

As to whether they pull more from Dems or from GOP, I think that's highly debatable. I personally feel they are closer to GOP with two former GOP govs on their ticket, and will take more of those votes once Dems start to unify (which is what explains Trump's current bump).
The issue is the total disgust with the two major candidates. Just like with Sanders, they could be a huge groundswell of support for third-party candidates. It is happening all over Europe where long entrenched parties are being upended by far left and far right candidates by a populace that is totally disgusted with the crooks running their governments. And I mean this literally.

The question is for how long will the American public permit crooks to keep stealing their money by the $trillions just as they are doing everywhere else in the world.
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Old 06-01-2016, 09:55 AM
 
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The issue is the total disgust with the two major candidates. Just like with Sanders, they could be a huge groundswell of support for third-party candidates. It is happening all over Europe where long entrenched parties are being upended by far left and far right candidates by a populace that is totally disgusted with the crooks running their governments. And I mean this literally.

The question is for how long will the American public permit crooks to keep stealing their money by the $trillions just as they are doing everywhere else in the world.
Probably a few more election cycles - until the old establishment baby boomer hags die off and the 50 and younger crowd become the majority of voters.
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Old 06-01-2016, 10:18 AM
 
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Weld will not impact Johnson's performance, and is thoroughly irrelevant.
Johnson's range, from 1.5-5% will depend on other factors.
Those are national tallies, not Electoral College outcomes.
The Johnson/Weld ticket has absolutely no chance of winning a state.
Its not about winning electoral votes or a state even. The simple act of getting 5% is what will give the Libertarian Party the ability to also receive matching FEC funds for 2020. I am hopeful that if this happens, we won't be stuck with so many god awful candidates, and could actually have likable and viable candidates to pick from.
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Old 06-01-2016, 10:27 AM
 
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Its not about winning electoral votes or a state even. The simple act of getting 5% is what will give the Libertarian Party the ability to also receive matching FEC funds for 2020. I am hopeful that if this happens, we won't be stuck with so many god awful candidates, and could actually have likable and viable candidates to pick from.
That's the bigger picture for non establishment voters. Establishment voters don't understand how important is.
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Old 06-01-2016, 10:32 AM
 
Location: Denver CO
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That's the bigger picture for non establishment voters. Establishment voters don't understand how important is.
That's because it's not important to them. The major party candidates don't accept these funds because they don't want to be constrained by the limits that come along with them. Not saying that this is good or bad, although I suppose it would actually be a more libertarian approach to let private fundraising be the sole funding mechanism.
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