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He just doesn't get it. He's about as far behind in delegates and votes as Cruz was when he dropped out. This is the same as Cruz staying in to the convention...
"The media is in error when they lump superdelegates with pledged delegates. Pledged delegates are real," Sanders said. "Hillary Clinton will not have the requisite number of pledged delegates to win the Democratic nomination at the end of the nominating process on June 14. Won't happen. She will be dependent on superdelegates."
No, Bernie, if you are going to ignore the super delegates altogether, then you have to subtract them from both the numerator and denominator. Otherwise, it wouldn't make sense.
4,366 total delegates available
714 total super delegates (let's ignore them)
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3,652 total pledged delegates
1,826 pledged delegates required for win (1/2+1 of 3,652)
1,769 Hillary's pledged delegates to date
So, she only needs 57 more pledged delegates to win a majority of the total pledged delegates. . . . . . so even using this standard, Hillary would definitely clinch on June 7 before the CA polls close.
So, she only needs 57 more pledged delegates to win a majority of the total pledged delegates. . . . . . so even using this standard, Hillary would definitely clinch on June 7 before the CA polls close.
Mick
A majority of pledged delegates does not assure the nomination, because
it is not a majority of delegates.
If the "superdelegates" are given enough reason not to nominate Mrs. Clinton,
they may nominate Sanders.
A majority of pledged delegates does not assure the nomination, because
it is not a majority of delegates.
If the "superdelegates" are given enough reason not to nominate Mrs. Clinton,
they may nominate Sanders.
Only in your fantasy world will the super delegates of the DEMOCRATIC party take the nomination away from the DEMOCRATIC frontrunner and give it to a candidate who isn't even a member of their party and who is, instead, in the process of trying to rip the party apart. You are dreaming if you believe otherwise.
1,826 pledged delegates required for win (1/2+1 of 3,652)
1,769 Hillary's pledged delegates to date
So, she only needs 57 more pledged delegates to win a majority of the total pledged delegates. . . . . . so even using this standard, Hillary would definitely clinch on June 7 before the CA polls close.
In 2008, Clinton conceded when Obama won 1828 (51%) pledged delegates. Bernie just doesn't get it.
Elizabeth Warren recently announced "I don't believe in super delegates" which is her way of rejecting Bernie's manipulations.
It's being reported on Twitter that Clinton has instructed her staff to not include any mention of super delegates in their communications.
Sheer fantasy, since the super delegates have NEVER EVER gave the nomination to a candidate who had fewer pledged delegates than the other since the super delegate system was implemented 32 years ago.
Remember, super delegates are senior party officials (e.g., Bernie Sanders, Bill Clinton, Joe Biden, Jimmy Carter, US Representatives (Dems.), US Senators (Dems.), Governors (Dems.), etc.). It's quite different than trying to flip some local yokel delegates from Idaho. It seems unlikely that nearly 300 of them would change their minds to give the nomination to someone who has not even been a Democrat until recently. It is a Democratic Party nomination after all.
Do we want to **** off Hillary supporters or Bernie supporters? I don't know, but 3 million more people voted for Hillary in the primaries . . . . would hate to alienate those Hillary supporters either.
Sanders doesn't have an argument, the "old man" won small insignificant states and never has embraced the Democratic party. Sanders is just a nobody trying to be somebody!
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No, Bernie, if you are going to ignore the super delegates altogether, then you have to subtract them from both the numerator and denominator. Otherwise, it wouldn't make sense.
4,366 total delegates available
714 total super delegates (let's ignore them)
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3,652 total pledged delegates
1,826 pledged delegates required for win (1/2+1 of 3,652)
1,769 Hillary's pledged delegates to date
So, she only needs 57 more pledged delegates to win a majority of the total pledged delegates. . . . . . so even using this standard, Hillary would definitely clinch on June 7 before the CA polls close.
Mick
Hmmmm NOpe.
It takes 2383 Delegates to win the nomination. By your own statements above,
Hillary is 614 delegates short.
There are 774 delegates left to be pledged from the primaries.
It's now impossible for her to win enough delegates to keep it from being a contested convention.
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