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Old 06-30-2016, 08:06 PM
 
Location: North Pacific
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The only way anyone is going to get someone else to have the exacts same thinking as they do on everything, is to run and win the office themselves.
The public is too fickle.

I'll betcha a dollar to donuts that Bush when he exited, slapped Obama on the back and said ... 'they're all yours now; don't turn your back on 'em whatever you do. they will eat you alive'.
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Old 06-30-2016, 08:06 PM
 
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Do you know the difference between Trump and Obama ... an R and a D. So remember, you said this, this time next year, if Trump is POTUS. Trump wouldn't know a positive direction if it jumped up and bit him in the buttocks.

I'll say it again. The two people most despised in America, became the nominees for both parties. You can't make this stuff up.

It is the clearest message I think I've ever seen the American public give and it isn't a good message.
Spot on the money!

They're about to choose between a phony comb-over narcissistic thumbsucker who simply bandies trite phrases without forming a coherent sentence and a corrupt abuser enabler riding the coat tails of a past pres that was just another in a long line of them that contributed to this mess in the first place. Cripes!
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Old 06-30-2016, 08:12 PM
 
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Sigh...

The United States surrendered to globalism 35 years ago.
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Old 06-30-2016, 08:21 PM
 
Location: The ends DO NOT justify the means!!!
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Sigh...

The United States surrendered to globalism 35 years ago.
No, "our" government sold us into perpetual slavery and offered up the American people as human collateral to the Central Banking Families, "Globalists", in 1913...any pretense of human freedom was abandoned then for good.
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Old 06-30-2016, 08:26 PM
 
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Fair, not free trade is what built this nation, kept it strong and employed to keep a revenue flow to the government in check and allowed our workforce and work places to be the safest on the planet, with regulations that are paid for with taxes earned working.
How you build a nation in the 1800's has Jack to do with how you build one now, or even 20 years ago. Technology is such a disruptor, free trade was nice idea in the 60's but mostly irrelevant because trade among continents was not profitable except for specialized items now everything that involves labor can be built cheaper and transported than here, ironically the best way to offset that is by automation which is another vilified practice.

I understand the concept of free trade versus fair trade, the premise that American companies have so many regulations that they can't fairly compete, how do you address that you can't police the world, you really have to take their word for it and yes most of those countries are corrupt so you can't trust them, other than lowering our standards to meet theirs that's why deregulation is a race to the bottom.
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Old 06-30-2016, 08:32 PM
 
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For 50 years we were told one-world-government was a conspiracy theory, now that it's obviously here and people are rejecting it, we're told it's too entrenched to get out of. Nice trick.
There is no one world government, really all governments are run by corporations who empower them, so it might seem like one government but is a group of governments with the same self interest.
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Old 06-30-2016, 08:36 PM
 
Location: The ends DO NOT justify the means!!!
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There is no one world government, really all governments are run by corporations who empower them, so it might seem like one government but is a group of governments with the same self interest.
The "corporations" and the puppet bankrupt/debtor nations all serve the same omnipotent masters. The Central Banking Families that make their existence possible..."governements" and "corportations" are just managers of the slaves, but they are not the ruling elite. The ruling elite that enslaves all of humanity are the Chosen Families or the Financier Class...no "corporation" or "government" has ANY power whatsoever over them.
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Old 06-30-2016, 08:44 PM
 
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How you build a nation in the 1800's has Jack to do with how you build one now, or even 20 years ago. Technology is such a disruptor, free trade was nice idea in the 60's but mostly irrelevant because trade among continents was not profitable except for specialized items now everything that involves labor can be built cheaper and transported than here, ironically the best way to offset that is by automation which is another vilified practice.

I understand the concept of free trade versus fair trade, the premise that American companies have so many regulations that they can't fairly compete, how do you address that you can't police the world, you really have to take their word for it and yes most of those countries are corrupt so you can't trust them, other than lowering our standards to meet theirs that's why deregulation is a race to the bottom.
Maybe what we really ought to be doing is rethinking the entire concept of "work." Maybe raising perfect kids could be considered "work" and people could be paid for that? There simply aren't going to be the "jobs of the past" in the future and we need to realize it and move on.
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Old 06-30-2016, 11:07 PM
 
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Adapting and playing in the sand box the ruling BOSSES set up for us, is how business works. If we don't play by their rules, we are no longer in business. Donald trying to make the most with the rules he is to play by.

How can he really be blamed, if we know how business works.
Those working the trenches as employees, never understand what it takes to give them a job to be employed. They never understand that if it is not making enough to keep the doors open, they don't have a right to a job. The business is only as good as the employees it hires, even in the best location.
I was a longtime business owner, and for many years I suffered the terrible indignity of trying to educate my employees to the fact of my distress of being the boss. Just kidding, but I really learned a lot as a business owner, and, at no time was I attempting to align the fact of business with the fact of dirty politics. Donald Trump was never really about business, he has always been a bit of a dandy about town, a bit of the buffoon, playing games on national TV for the sake of low brow entertainment. His fathers dough made the money that he would later claim as his reward for hard work, hah, who really believes the guy---Unfortunately, too many people do believe him.

Donald Trump would say or do anything in his power to convince the American voter that he alone is the new king savior, yes, he can and will, by his own account, run the money changers from the temple, those evil billionaire buddies who have the same amount of ice water in their veins as any good charlatan like Trump would require. Hope they have a soft landing if and when the Orange one takes that oath and then begins his real madness...
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Old 06-30-2016, 11:48 PM
 
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No, "our" government sold us into perpetual slavery and offered up the American people as human collateral to the Central Banking Families, "Globalists", in 1913...any pretense of human freedom was abandoned then for good.
Americans voted for Reagan twice as the big corporations decided to close shop here and move our jobs to the nations that bid the lowest. Then they kept on voting for globalist presidents and congressmen.

Even today, several posters will defend their votes while decrying globalism. Some of these posters (mostly if not all conservative) get giddy at the idea of American corporatists moving their assets out of this country. I've read it a million times.
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