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Old 07-04-2016, 11:25 AM
 
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Not exactly the democratic platform.


States rights is a right-wing thing.
Or Libertarian ha. This Election has been crazy been a Republican since I was 18. The Republicans have lately been not sure how to say blending Religion into politics, hidden racism, and having their hands in deep with corporations. 10 year's later voting in my first Primary and first time back voting after I stopped voting due to corruption issues. I am supporting the Democrats and w a Democratic Socialist. Now supporting and reading more and more on Libertarians I am liking them. Definitely feel this election will bring back a lot of voters.

I am all for amending the Constitution adhere guidelines for States to adhere by with some interpretation. Let States create their own laws and govern thenselves. Let businesses practice freely if a Anti-Semtist does not want to serve those of Judaism i am okay with and vice versa if a person of Judaism does not want to support an Anti-Semitist I am for it. Not for bullying and causing physical harm. That should be left for the State to respond and State Judicial system. I am open to free trade with little political or industrial influence. Open borders.

Only 5 things that should be part of the Constitution are: Abortion is legal. Death Penalty is illegal. Marijuana should be legal. Pay should be equal based off of skills, qualifications, and education. States can't infringe against LGBT rights in State or town designated areas. Universal Healthcare for US citizens.

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Old 07-04-2016, 11:34 AM
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Too bad most the American public is too stupid and brainwashed to vote for these guys.
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Too bad all the lemmings will just blindly vote dem or rep.
Keep it up guys. Nothing convinces people to come to your side like calling them a bunch of stupid brainwashed lemmings...
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Old 07-04-2016, 11:38 AM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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I wouldn't put too much into anything written by HPost. As for pot head, you do realize more states are legalizing it all the time don't you? I don't which one you are referring to that wants total open borders. Unless Johnson has changed his stand 100% he is not in favor of open borders. As for a RINO, there is a reason he has switched his party; yes, he admits he is not a conservative socially. If you really think Trump is a conservative, you might have a sad awakening if her gets elected.
Pot head? That's the term I use, too.

But consider that Betty Ford admitted to trying it once, just to see. We all know abut her alcohol use.
Bill Clinton admitted he used, but "didn't inhale".
GW Bush drank to excess and never had any trouble owning up to it. Didn't do it while he was president.
Obama smoked (smokes?) cigarettes and has admitted to using cocaine.

So Johnson's past used of pot has to go on the back burner, for me.

As much as I have reservations about some other issues, I will vote for him. He's the best hope. Trump's "wall" thing just isn't going over well, and Hillary doesn't really believe in anything except her own quest for power.

But if Johnson doesn't get 50 electoral votes or better, we may be in deep Ca-Ca.
That may mean President Hillary.

Ross Perot got 20% of the vote and 0 (ZERO!) electoral votes. Bill Clinton, who won twice without ever winning 50% of the votes, became president with 43% of the votes.
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Old 07-04-2016, 11:40 AM
 
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Not exactly the democratic platform.


States rights is a right-wing thing.
Interesting that the 10th Amendment is somehow perceived as a "right wing thing" instead of just well, I don't know, one of the founding principles of our country.
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Old 07-04-2016, 02:23 PM
 
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Nonsense. From your source above:

Read that carefully. Reward the lawbreakers who crossed here illegally and give them the chance to apply for a work visa. Awarding illegal behavior. 10's of millions of american legal citizens out of work on top of that and give the illegals a chance too jump in the job market after they jump the line and come here illegally. And why not slap the face of those who migrated here legally, took the time, played by the rule of law a little harder while he's at it. And you think this is fair and valid, ignore the law, kick in the gut those who play by the rule of law? This is the guy/policies you're gushing over to vote for? That part about a president swearing that they will uphold the rule of law of the constitution should go out the window now if these types of clowns are sworn in office and their ideology should overrule the laws we are all suppose to follow?

From cruz to former RINO's who are taking a page out of the liberal left/clinton book and reward illegal behavior. You have gone far off the other end dexter75.
You do know its impossible to round up 11+million people and deport them right? You dont have the manpower nor the time or money for that. It currently takes 14 months for someone caught illegally in the country to go before a judge and ordered back to their country. Even if you could get the many thousands of officers and judges needed to do it, it would take literally tens of BILLIONS of dollars. Where do you house millions of illegals as they await to see judges? You going to spend hundreds of millions on building the facilities needed? Who pays for that? taxpayers? Its nonsense and illogical. Now what if you could take a vast majority of those people, put them to work and make them pay taxes? That helps everyone. Before you give me the BS about taking jobs from Americans, save it. I live 100 miles from the border and I see the jobs illegals do. They wash cars in the heat for next to no pay, they push ice cream carts around, they do gardening work for next to nothing, they pick fruit out in fields for next to nothing. Please tell me what white and African Americans are lining up to do these jobs lol. This country runs on cheap labor, even your boy Dishonest Donald uses them before hiring Americans. Pot, meet kettle.
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Old 07-04-2016, 02:31 PM
 
Location: Amongst the AZ Cactus
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You do know its impossible to round up 11+million people and deport them right? You dont have the manpower nor the time or money for that. It currently takes 14 months for someone caught illegally in the country to go before a judge and ordered back to their country. Even if you could get the many thousands of officers and judges needed to do it, it would take literally tens of BILLIONS of dollars. Where do you house millions of illegals as they await to see judges? You going to spend hundreds of millions on building the facilities needed? Who pays for that? taxpayers? Its nonsense and illogical. Now what if you could take a vast majority of those people, put them to work and make them pay taxes? That helps everyone. Before you give me the BS about taking jobs from Americans, save it. I live 100 miles from the border and I see the jobs illegals do. They wash cars in the heat, they push ice cream carts around they do gardening work for next to nothing, they pick fruit out in fields for next to nothing. Please tell me what white and African Americans are lining up to do these jobs lol.
I didn't suggest to round them up. I said don't reward them. That's unfair on so many levels and it's against the rule of law in our nation. Businesses need to not hire them. Increase the fines against them big time and most importantly, Enforce that law, and the flow will stop quickly/self-deportation will happen. That's the solution.

Sure, here's how illegals are hurting black employment

How Illegal Immigration Hurts Black America – The Root

Writer: Illegal Immigration Stifles Black Community : NPR
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Mr. JEFFERSON: There is an Immigration and Customs Enforcement raid in October of 2008 that came in and found 300 undocumented workers at the Raeford Farms, Columbia Farms processing plant in Columbia, South Carolina. And Raeford Farms was presumably spooked by that as they had been hiring undocumented immigrants for all their plants. And they systematically began firing all their undocumented workers in within less than a year. What had been an 80 percent Latino production line became a 70 percent African-American production line.
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Prof. SWAIN: Its not an isolated incident. Its been that kind probably for the last 10 or 15 years. Theres been story after story of factories and plants in the South, where the white and African-American workers were laid off or gradually replaced with immigrant labor.
See, so I can now play the dem/liberal game.....one is racist if they support illegal immigration as it impacts legal citizens job opportunities, especially black employment. And you know what? I think I'm actually right on that one to play the race card as it can't be logically torn apart.

And beyond this, again, it's ILLEGAL to know someone is illegal and give them jobs, this/that/the other thing. Why in the world would anyone support a politician who swears to uphold the law then toss it aside? You are apparently for throwing your hands up and support a candidate, johnson/weld, others hil, who rewards illegal behavior now? And you call yourself a cruz supporter?
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Old 07-04-2016, 02:34 PM
 
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And beyond this, it's ILLEGAL. You are apparently for throwing your hand up and support a candidate, johnson/weld, who rewards illegal behavior now? And you call yourself a cruz supporter?
dexter has no values, and no ideology.

all he has is a blind hatred for all that is TRUMP.

thus, he is voting for Gary Clinton.
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Old 07-04-2016, 02:40 PM
 
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I didn't suggest to round them up. I said don't reward them. That's unfair on so many levels and it's against the rule of law in our nation. Businesses need to not hire them. Increase the fines against them and the flow will stop quickly/self-deportation will happen. That's the solution.

Sure, here's how illegals are hurting black employment

How Illegal Immigration Hurts Black America – The Root

Writer: Illegal Immigration Stifles Black Community : NPR
See, so I can now play the dem/liberal game.....one is racist if they support illegal immigration as it impacts legal citizens job opportunities, especially black employment. And you know what? I think I'm actually right on that one to play the race card as it can't be logically torn apart.

And beyond this, again, it's ILLEGAL to know someone is illegal and give them jobs, this/that/the other thing. Why in the world would anyone support a politician who swears to uphold the law then toss it aside? You are apparently for throwing your hands up and support a candidate, johnson/weld, others hil, who rewards illegal behavior now? And you call yourself a cruz supporter?
The best you can do are 6 year old links? lol I know they are complete garbage anyways. Why? Because the states with the largest number of illegals are the border states. CA, AZ, NM, TX. How many blacks do you think live in NM? lol. How many blacks live in AZ? I'll give you a clue, hardly any! These are states with some of the lowest number of blacks in the entire country. Besides, how many blacks you think are lining up to got out and pick things in fields? Yeah....lol. Most blacks live in the south and the south has never been and will never be a hotbed for illegals. They stay out west in border states where you have high numbers of Hispanics. So again, please save it, they arent taking jobs from blacks
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Old 07-04-2016, 02:44 PM
 
Location: Amongst the AZ Cactus
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The best you can do are 6 year old links? lol I know they are complete garbage anyways. Why? Because the states with the largest number of illegals are the border states. CA, AZ, NM, TX. How many blacks do you think live in NM? lol. How many blacks live in AZ? I'll give you a clue, hardly any! These are states with some of the lowest number of blacks in the entire country. Besides, how many blacks you think are lining up to got out and pick things in fields? Yeah....lol. So again, please save it, they arent taking jobs from blacks
dex, you sound like the type pf person that would vote for a candidate who supports any crime or form of illegal behavior if it fits your world view. You ignored data from researchers with concrete examples that I provided so there's no hope to change your tunnel vision view of your form of "reality". I think snowball said it best:

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dexter has no values, and no ideology.

all he has is a blind hatred for all that is TRUMP.

thus, he is voting for Gary Clinton.
Enjoy voting for those who enable illegal behavior/reward illegal behavior and rationalize it all in your mind in any warped manner you wish. Amazing there are individuals like yourself who rationalize it all/seem proud to defend that.
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Old 07-04-2016, 02:46 PM
 
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Enjoy voting for those who enable illegal behavior/reward illegal behavior. Amazing there are individuals like yourself who rationalize it all/seem proud to defend that.
How many illegals has Dishonest Donald employed and rewarded? Thousands! His projects were built with cheap, illegal labor rather than hiring Americans. Please tell me how many illegals Gary Johnson and Bill Weld have employed. I'll wait...

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/...rumped-n397821
http://www.weeklystandard.com/trump-...rticle/2001294
http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...nt-good-enough
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