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He said classified material was sent and received from her private email account. Let's forget what she received for a moment. If she sent classified email, isn't it her responsibility to know that what she is sending out is classified, and who's responsibility is it to mark it classified?
Absolutely. And anyone who has ever held a security clearance has it beaten into their head over and over again in briefing after briefing that classified information isn't magically unclassified just by removing, or neglecting to affix, classification tags on the material.
Clinton was well aware that if she was discussing drone strikes, military plans, diplomatic negotiations or anything of the sort, that they would be classified and not suitable for transmission over an insecure medium or in an insecure location.
Someone brought that up and it's asked and answered.
The Director is not an idiot.
Try as you might this hearing is not going to go your way. There's nothing remotely improper about the investigation nor its outcome.
Hopefully you'll all have the good sense to stop wasting the general public's time and money and accept Dir Comey's recommendation.
What do you mean, I should stop wasting the general public's time? It wasn't my idea. I couldn't care less about her emails, since I didn't like her, or think she was qualified long before this.
I do not have any doubt that the FBI Director is trustworthy.
There seems to be a wide misunderstanding here that information classified elsewhere got onto Clinton's server.
I do not believe that is alleged at all. Clinton, like an SofS, spent her days buried in classified material. But that was handled separately on secure systems. This deals only with some small set of material on her private server.
And the allegation has nothing to do with information from elsewhere getting on to her server. It was a set of email discussions apparently initiated on Clinton email dealing with subjects so classified that the FBI will not even disclose the general nature. And it all appears to have been initiated by Clinton staff or Clinton personally.
Legally this would appear to be State Dept work product beyond any doubt. Legally that would make the SofS the classifying authority...so it cannot have been misclassified.
There is of course a big judgement question - should such discussions occurs on a non secure system? And I would think it fair to hold Clinton responsible for a large error of judgement here. But we will not be able to tell how big as we are not going to know what actually was discussed and how deeply. A highly philosophical argument about the ethics of drone strikes would be one thing...including a list of targets or where they are believed to be would be another. I would expect both would be considered classified by some agencies.
I would think it fair to hold Clinton responsible for a large error of judgement here. But we will not be able to tell how big as we are not going to know what actually was discussed and how deeply.
Director Comey's brief:
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For example, seven e-mail chains concern matters that were classified at the Top Secret/Special Access Program level when they were sent and received. These chains involved Secretary Clinton both sending e-mails about those matters and receiving e-mails from others about the same matters. There is evidence to support a conclusion that any reasonable person in Secretary Clinton’s position, or in the position of those government employees with whom she was corresponding about these matters, should have known that an unclassified system was no place for that conversation.
SAP information is the most sensitive that there is. That kind of stuff is only known to a handful of people and is typically stored in safes inside of secure areas inside of secure buildings. Putting it on an unprotected, Internet-connected server running in Hillary Clinton's bathroom is an egregious violation and it doesn't matter whether or not she'll ever face charges, but she has proven so careless with highly classified information -- and lied about it -- that her suitability to hold the office of president is questionable at best.
SAP information is the most sensitive that there is. That kind of stuff is only known to a handful of people and is typically stored in safes inside of secure areas inside of secure buildings. Putting it on an unprotected, Internet-connected server running in Hillary Clinton's bathroom is an egregious violation and it doesn't matter whether or not she'll ever face charges, but she has proven so careless with highly classified information -- and lied about it -- that her suitability to hold the office of president is questionable at best.
No way to tell that. Snowden shows some apparently SAP stuff was not terribly damaging. The US did not collapse upon its disclosure. And it appears to be the subject that is the cause of the classification. Just what subjects can you think of that would devastate US security if their existence was known.
He said classified material was sent and received from her private email account. Let's forget what she received for a moment. If she sent classified email, isn't it her responsibility to know that what she is sending out is classified, and who's responsibility is it to mark it classified?
It's not clear that her office originated the 3 emails in question. They may have forwarded them.
The 3 emails contained classified information but were improperly marked, according to Comer. If they had been properly marked, they could not possibly have been received at or sent/forwarded from her server.
It's not clear that her office originated the 3 emails in question. They may have forwarded them.
The 3 emails contained classified information but were improperly marked, according to Comer. If they had been properly marked, they could not possibly have been received at or sent/forwarded from her server.
No. What they were and from where has been disclosed. That is where the view came from that they were not properly classified. They were schedules of Clinton phone conversations.
Note that Comey is aware of all this and carefully minimized the finding. He knew they were garbage but all he had on the point. This one actually went to Clinton.
And the allegation has nothing to do with information from elsewhere getting on to her server. It was a set of email discussions apparently initiated on Clinton email dealing with subjects so classified that the FBI will not even disclose the general nature. And it all appears to have been initiated by Clinton staff or Clinton personally.
Legally this would appear to be State Dept work product beyond any doubt. Legally that would make the SofS the classifying authority...so it cannot have been misclassified.
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Her server could not receive or transmit classified documents that were properly marked.
So it appears you're alleging she originated top secret documents and sent them unclassified. What is your source for that allegation?
No way to tell that. Snowden shows some apparently SAP stuff was not terribly damaging. The US did not collapse upon its disclosure. And it appears to be the subject that is the cause of the classification. Just what subjects can you think of that would devastate US security if their existence was known.
The exact wording is "reasonably could be expected to cause exceptionally grave damage to the national security."
Theoretical, but just a few off the top of my head:
1) Plans to covertly aid rebel groups in any number of areas.
2) The existence of a highly placed mole inside an adversary's government.
3) New/secret weapons technology.
4) War plans.
5) Identities of foreign adversary's computer networks that have been penetrated.
Any of those could cost the nation dearly in terms of lives, intelligence capability and billions of dollars.
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