Hillary/Obama have insulted millions...Trump has insulted a few specific people. (education, Americans)
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You are welcome to your opinion, but it's not how I interpreted it.
You are interpreting it differently because you have a political allegiance to uphold. In any other context in life, if you heard "They are rapists. Some, I assume, are good people," you would interpret it to mean one group of people.
I absolutely believe Trump attracts a disproportionate number of unintelligent people. It is indisputable fact that uneducated people support him more than educated people do.
What do you have against uneducated people? There are plenty of intelligent people that aren't educated.
You are interpreting it differently because you have a political allegiance to uphold. In any other context in life, if you heard "They are rapists. Some, I assume, are good people," you would interpret it to mean one group of people.
You are interpreting differently because you have a political allegiance to uphold.
What do you have against uneducated people? There are plenty of intelligent people that aren't educated.
Of course, but as a whole, uneducated people are less intelligent than educated people. That is a fact that is well-supported.
Education helps people reason better, reason with better information and become exposed to more worldviews. This process makes it less likely that a person would support the likes of Trump.
The problem is that your "we" refers to a group that almost certainly doesn't include you....or me. Think about what you're really saying here. You're saying that all of those groups used to not complain when they were insulted, but now they are complaining, and other people are becoming sympathetic to their complaints. Does telling them to just get over themselves and let you start insulting them again without resistance really seem like the best response?
When we said "f*g" on the playground, we all knew the word meant "gay." We were using it as an insult because being gay was not a desirable thing in our minds. That would clearly be insulting to a gay person, and their being insulted doesn't make them soft.
I'm not saying that they used to not complain, i'm saying that the words back then had a different context, i disagree with the f word being used as gay, that's not the context of the word, it was used so often and wasn't used in the context that you're going to go out and have sexual relations with someone of the same sex, it was kind of a joking thing, nobody took it as an 'insult' it was a different time for sure.
also, it depends on how the word was SAID and in what context to determine if an actual insult was made. If a few buddies are sitting around at someone's home drinking and laughing and having fun and one of the men said something to his pals in a laughing, joking, 'one of the guys' type of ways, it would certainly not be the same as if those words were used between two strangers for example. It really comes down to the intent to insult, you can insult someone without using any slurs at all by your tone and facial expression and intent and the situation, its not the words that are insults its the intent and situation.
I'm not saying that they used to not complain, i'm saying that the words back then had a different context, i disagree with the f word being used as gay, that's not the context of the word, it was used so often and wasn't used in the context that you're going to go out and have sexual relations with someone of the same sex, it was kind of a joking thing, nobody took it as an 'insult' it was a different time for sure.
Of course no one literally meant "You are the sort of person who likes to have same-sex intercourse." People did, however, know that the word meant gay, and the word was used as an insult. Similarly, if a person describes something poorly fixed as "N-word rigged," they are not literally saying that a black person did the repair. They are saying the repair was done badly, but the fact that they are evoking black people to describe a poor repair job is clearly insulting.
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Originally Posted by wall st kid
also, it depends on how the word was SAID and in what context to determine if an actual insult was made. If a few buddies are sitting around at someone's home drinking and laughing and having fun and one of the men said something to his pals in a laughing, joking, 'one of the guys' type of ways, it would certainly not be the same as if those words were used between two strangers for example. It really comes down to the intent to insult, you can insult someone without using any slurs at all by your tone and facial expression and intent and the situation, its not the words that are insults its the intent and situation.
I disagree with the bolded text. I think our statements can reflect beliefs we hold, and those beliefs can be insulting even if we don't intend for them to be. If I say "He's dumber than a retard," I don't need to be intending to insult people with intellectual disabilities in order for my words to actually be insulting to those people.
Of course, but as a whole, uneducated people are less intelligent than educated people. That is a fact that is well-supported.
Education helps people reason better, reason with better information and become exposed to more worldviews. This process makes it less likely that a person would support the likes of Trump.
#lovethepoorlyeducated
Education hasn't really helped convince Hillary fans that she's a crime boss with a laundry list of scandals, boiler room payments, fake speeches and god knows what else, none of what she's done seems to be any factor at all to the 'smart' people. Maybe its the poorly educated that are more 'street smart' and that's why they want Trump.
Its not always the 'formally educated' person that's smarter, i know a lot of people with high school degrees and no real formal education who would run circles in 'real life' around some of the 'more educated' people, seems like a lot of Trump supporters are the people who are smart in 'real life' which is a good thing to have. You don't have to have a piece of paper from a university to be smart. A lot of those 'smart people' are up to their eyeballs in debt from student loans while the 'poorly educated' aren't paying off loans, they got their educations from the school of hard knocks and aren't in debt and miserable because of that.
Of course, but as a whole, uneducated people are less intelligent than educated people. That is a fact that is well-supported.
Education helps people reason better, reason with better information and become exposed to more worldviews. This process makes it less likely that a person would support the likes of Trump.
But unfortunately it's an ad populum fallacy to think having more support from a certain group makes one correct on issues.
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