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I find it hilarious that back in 2000, 2004 and in the run up to 2008 the elections are rigged was a battlecry by Democrats.
Diebold in particular, company located in OH, owner is repub donor....was singled out as one of the major sources of the cheating.
Then I open up CNN today and they're running an article how Trump is damaging Americas faith in elections with his crying about rigged elections.
I find that to actually support his claim about the media coverage, because whining about losing has been a non-partisan thing for decades.
P.S. I bumped an old thread about Republicans stealing elections with Diebold etc. in this very forum in case you have amnesia. There used to be so many more but those are lost to time here.
I've never heard of such a thing. Then again, I didn't join here until 2009.
No. I think you misunderstood my point. Media IS reporting on the illegally obtained Russian backed wikileaks email release.
My question is, where is the outrage by the "Make America Great Again" crowd about the FBI warned origin of the leak and how it could impact the U.S. election?
Voter suppression is the name of the game for Republicans...and that should be smacked to the gutter.
I agree. In areas where a lot of Democrats live, many polling locations have been closed. In FL, the early voting days were cut, yet the population has grown. A Federal judge had to step in to extend the days to register after millions of FL residents were evacuated during Hurricane Matthew. Gov Rick Scott said no to the request. He didn't mind asking for millions of dollars from the Federal government for disaster relief, however.
The voter fraud claim has been used for decades. I remember when the Bush administration spent taxpayer dollars on a 5 year investigation that turned up bubkis. Even [URL="http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/09/24/voter-id-laws-target-rarely-occurring-voter-fraud.html"]Fox News[/URL] reported that voter fraud is virtually non-existent.
"After a five-year hunt for voter fraud, the Bush administration's Justice Department came up with little widespread fraud, finding mostly cases of people mistakenly filling out voter registration forms or voting when they didn't know they were ineligible, The New York Times reported in 2007. But none of the cases involved a person voting as someone else."
I find it hilarious that back in 2000, 2004 and in the run up to 2008 the elections are rigged was a battlecry by Democrats.
See my last post. I didn't realize Bush was a Democrat.
Yes, there were recalls in some states, for obvious reasons. I also believe it is very possible for someone to commit fraud, but I'm not talking about individuals going to the polls. I dropped my ballot off and placed it into a box. I can only assume it will be counted and I check its status online. What I don't understand is why Trump supporters are more upset about the Wikileaks than they are about the source. I mean, why can't the same people hack into our voting machines? Oh, I know! Maybe it's because those foreign hackers are trying to get Trump elected by slandering Clinton?
“I have never seen in my lifetime or in modern political history any presidential candidate trying to discredit the elections and the election process before votes have even taken place,” the president continued. “It’s unprecedented.”
“In Florida, for example, you’ve got a Republican governor who’s got Republican appointees who are gonna be running and monitoring a whole bunch of these election sites,” Obama said. “The notion that somehow if Mr. Trump loses Florida it’s because of ‘those people’ you have to watch out for? That is both irresponsible and, by the way, doesn’t really show the kind of leadership and toughness that you’d want out of a president.”
Obama added: “I’d invite Mr. Trump to stop whining and go try to make his case to get votes. And if he got the most votes, then it would be my expectation of Hillary Clinton to offer a gracious concession speech and pledge to work with him in order to make sure the American people benefit from an effective government. And it would be my job to welcome Mr. Trump regardless of what he’s said about me or my differences with him on my opinions and escort him over to the Capitol, in which there would be a peaceful transfer of power.”
SPOT ON!
It is not only highly un-presidential to whine about supposed election fraud, especially with no evidence; it is also highly irresponsible and dangerous for a democracy.
Christ... saying that the guy is like a little child is actually an insult to little children everywhere. So sick of this twerp whining about everything.
wah wah wahhh... not fair, nor fair.. look at me, look at mee...
"Everything is rigged!
The stories I don't like are rigged.
The accusers are rigged.
The media is rigged.
The polls are rigged.
The microphones are rigged.
The courts are rigged.
The science is rigged.
The electoral college is rigged.
The voting process is rigged!
....unless, of course, I win."
It's not just pathetic, it's highly dangerous. This is exactly how a populist demagogue justifies the rolling back of democratic institutions in this country. The media is rigged!.. So let's take a hatchet to the media and replace it with something that me and my band of friends will deem as "fair." Oh, and by the way, Trump's definition of "fair media" will be one that is effectively censored from criticizing him, because he can't take criticism.
No. I think you misunderstood my point. Media IS reporting on the illegally obtained Russian backed wikileaks email release.
My question is, where is the outrage by the "Make America Great Again" crowd about the FBI warned origin of the leak and how it could impact the U.S. election?
I'm waiting..
The post I was responding to:
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Originally Posted by MyNameIsBellaMia
And the media is definitely advertising FOR Hillary.
My response:
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Originally Posted by Old Gringo
You mean like not reporting on the email issues and all the wikileaks releases?
Maybe I should have tagged my response <sarcasm> to prevent confusion, since it's easy to miss in this electronic medium. Of course the media has been all over these issues. But such a dose of reality never creates even a glimmer in the Trumplings' minds.
Yes. Empty heads don't realize how effective TV is. If it weren't effective, we wouldn't have 6 minutes of advertising every 15 minutes. People are basically stupid. When you hammer something into their heads over and over and over and over, they believe it. And look at fad diseases. Talk about it enough and people start to get it. It's advertising.
And the media is definitely advertising FOR Hillary.
It's the same concept as going to school. When your teacher repeats himself, you learn. It doesn't matter if it's true. Just put it out there and people will grab onto it. People are just too damned dumb to know they're being subliminally influenced (and much of it not so subliminal).
Didn't cry much when the media gave the Donald the nomination did ya bella? Literally he got more coverage than the other 16 republican candidates combined.
But that's not the reason for the response eh? I think you nailed it as you have identified the dumpster's base of dumpster divers. They watched The Apprentice and saw up close and personal just how talented the Donald was. TV made him, and now TV will break him. Awesome.
I believe that some Trump supporters will use intimidation tactics at polling places to discourage non-whites from voting. Scary times we live in.
As I posted before my sister in law was sn election official for decades in Victoria county Tx
There are voters for both parties... She said that since the Moral Majority yrs started the very conservative rrligious right faction, voters for the Republicans have created more and more tension at the polls. The last time worked the polls in local election for her town about a year ago she had the wife of a Republican candidate in line to vote making loud comments about who was in line--suggesting some voters were illegals ( they were Hispanics ( likely with as long a familial line in the US as hers) who were registered voters... Intimidation tactics and a hateful attitude to boot. My SIL was the senior judge and she had to tell her to be quiet or be enected w/o voting... The woman's response was to brag that her husband was going to be elected. Another intimidation tactic. But it didnt work and she shut up. She quit before the Nov election because she didnt want the hassle... She said she had worked for decades with other election judges but lately the antagonistic nature of the Rrpublican voters and a few officials had created a very hostile atmosphere...
In other areas, other demographics maybe the situation is different...
But from my perspective the most ascerbic, antagonistic people at the polls are Republicans...
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Time for some clarification.
