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Old 10-19-2016, 10:10 AM
 
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If the Russians have stuff to "blackmail" Hillary with WHY would they be giving wikileaks stuff that HURTS Hillary? You'd think that if they had "blackmail" stuff on her, they would WANT her to win.
Sorry, but your contention makes ZERO sense.

You could be on to something though - maybe they have stuff on TRUMP.


Ken
Possibly. Who knows. Are you telling me you believe Russia is hacking us to sway the election and all they hacked was a GMAIL account?
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Old 10-19-2016, 10:20 AM
 
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I cannot get past "Weapons of Mass Destruction". We have been fed so many lies from our own government that it is hard to tell the truth. Actually Bush Jr's little lie cost thousands of lives; both theirs and ours. He was down in the polls and wanted a distraction: That is where WMD's came in. Now Hillary wants more power and money and she is blaming her faults on anybody in striking distance - Trump or the Russians. She will never accept blame for her mistakes.
The fact that you believe it was a George Bush's "lie", makes anything you have to say immaterial to the discussion, and evidence of the poison which runs through this nation of stupidity..
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Old 10-19-2016, 11:13 AM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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Possibly. Who knows. Are you telling me you believe Russia is hacking us to sway the election and all they hacked was a GMAIL account?
It's wasn't just Pedesta's e-mail account. Remember the DNC's servers were hacked too (before Pedesta's was) - as were at least 2 state voter databases. It's pretty clear the attacks are largely aimed at the Democrats. One can only wonder why?

Ken
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Old 10-19-2016, 02:46 PM
 
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Did you read your own link?

You're basing your knowledge on the claims made by William Binney on right-wing media sites that apparently engage in pop conspiracy theories tailored to Trumpies and others susceptible to "Big Lie" propaganda.

You failed to notice this important point made in the story that you linked:

<<Binney was an architect of the NSA’s surveillance program. He became a famed whistleblower when he resigned on October 31, 2001, after spending more than 30 years with the agency. >>

So Binney hasn't worked at the NSA for 15 years but is still privy to everything at the agency?

Yeah, right.

I don't know anything about William Binney, but it's obvious why he is ignored by mainstream media, especially regarding his claims about the DNC hack.

I'll believe the experts who actually investigated the DNC hack and who have wide experience in cyber attacks.

Crowdstrike, which investigated the DNC Hack is led by Shawn Henry, the former head of the FBI's criminal and cyber divisions.

From post 122:

<<Here's the Crowdstrike report on the hack of the DNC.

https://www.crowdstrike.com/blog/bea...nal-committee/

Shawn Henry, the president of Crowdstrike Services and former executive assistant director of the FBI, has been widely interviewed about the Russian DNC hack, and leaves no doubt that the Russians perpetrated the DNC hack.

<<In 2012, Shawn Henry, a former FBI executive who lead both the FBI’s criminal and cyber Divisions, was hired to lead sister company CrowdStrike Services, Inc., which is focused on proactive and incident response services.>>

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CrowdStrike
>>

Trump and his supporters seem to believe that falsehoods spoken loudly and repeatedly are the equal of objective truth.
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Old 10-19-2016, 04:30 PM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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There is apparently some proof that some Russian has hacked US "targets."

"Police in the Czech Republic have detained an unidentified Russian man suspected of participating in cyberattacks on the United States, according to a statement published Wednesday on the police website."

Czech police arrest Russian hacker with US FBI help after DNC and John Podesta Hillary Clinton email hacks - CBS News

If this is confirmed, then no reason to think that there haven't been other instances.
Saw that, but does that in any way PROVE that he was Russian backed or part of a state scheme? That's like saying because Anonymous is comprised of U.S. citizens then it's the U.S. government doing it.
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Old 10-19-2016, 04:32 PM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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Yup, the Russians are trying to manipulate our election. They WANT Trump as President. You have to ask yourself WHY?

Ken
You mean they're trying to do for Trump what the MSM is doing for Hillary? How quaint...
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Old 10-19-2016, 04:35 PM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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You mean they're trying to do for Trump what the MSM is doing for Hillary? How quaint...
Trump/Putin 2016 - Make Russia Great Again!!!!!!

The MSM is not defeating Trump. Hillary isn't even defeating Trump. Trump is defeating himself.
What an idiot.

Ken
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Old 10-19-2016, 04:35 PM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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That is fine. I am sure Russia is hacking us. We hack them. So what? So far, all we have is a hacked GMAIL. That is amateur.
I am sure whatever Russia has they are holding on to in order to blackmail HRC when she becomes President.
Again, we hack Russia. We hack China. They hack us.
You need to add Germany,everyone in the EU and pretty much every other nation to that list on an hourly basis.
But it's okay for the U.S. to hack others (including it citizens) because,because WE'RE THE GOOD GUYS...
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Old 10-19-2016, 04:37 PM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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Did you read your own link?

You're basing your knowledge on the claims made by William Binney on right-wing media sites that apparently engage in pop conspiracy theories tailored to Trumpies and others susceptible to "Big Lie" propaganda.

You failed to notice this important point made in the story that you linked:

<<Binney was an architect of the NSA’s surveillance program. He became a famed whistleblower when he resigned on October 31, 2001, after spending more than 30 years with the agency. >>

So Binney hasn't worked at the NSA for 15 years but is still privy to everything at the agency?

Yeah, right.

I don't know anything about William Binney, but it's obvious why he is ignored by mainstream media, especially regarding his claims about the DNC hack.

I'll believe the experts who actually investigated the DNC hack and who have wide experience in cyber attacks.

Crowdstrike, which investigated the DNC Hack is led by Shawn Henry, the former head of the FBI's criminal and cyber divisions.

From post 122:

<<Here's the Crowdstrike report on the hack of the DNC.

https://www.crowdstrike.com/blog/bea...nal-committee/

Shawn Henry, the president of Crowdstrike Services and former executive assistant director of the FBI, has been widely interviewed about the Russian DNC hack, and leaves no doubt that the Russians perpetrated the DNC hack.

<<In 2012, Shawn Henry, a former FBI executive who lead both the FBI’s criminal and cyber Divisions, was hired to lead sister company CrowdStrike Services, Inc., which is focused on proactive and incident response services.>>

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CrowdStrike
>>

Trump and his supporters seem to believe that falsehoods spoken loudly and repeatedly are the equal of objective truth
.
Sounds like the Hillary crowd as well...
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Old 10-19-2016, 04:40 PM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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It's wasn't just Pedesta's e-mail account. Remember the DNC's servers were hacked too (before Pedesta's was) - as were at least 2 state voter databases. It's pretty clear the attacks are largely aimed at the Democrats. One can only wonder why?

Ken
I wonder if it's to level the playing field since the MSM is clearly conspiring/promoting with/for Hillary/DNC or are you blind to that?
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