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Clinton, the DNC, et. al. keep stating that Russia is attempting to influence our elections.
In the debate, Clinton blamed these Wikileaks, DNC Hacks, etc. at the hands of Russia. Rather than focusing on the content of the leaks, she simply blamed Russia for hacking.
Is there any actual proof Russia is responsible for any of these leaks?
Russian hacking focused on U.S. electoral campaigns to support Trump
Russia, angered over sanctions, apparently has hacked the Democratic National Committee servers and is providing documents to Wikileaks, apparently in an attempt to promote the Putin-friendly Donald Trump. There are also fears that Russian hackers will disrupt the actual electoral campaign by damaging voter rolls and perhaps even changing vote counts.
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The story begins in May, when the Democratic National Committee (DNC) became concerned about suspicious behaviour on its computer network. It called in the security firm CrowdStrike to take a look.
Two hacker groups were found on the system, one that had just entered and another that had been there for nearly a year.
"We recognised that there was an adversary in their environment that had targeted that network and was looking at communications…. and research on opposition candidates," Shawn Henry, chief security officer at Crowdstrike and a former executive assistant director of the FBI, tells the BBC.>>
<<Much of the Russian efforts in the election appear directed at undermining the campaigns of Mrs. Clinton and other Democrats. Donald J. Trump, the Republican nominee, has called Mr. Putin a better leader than Mr. Obama and suggested a more collaborative relationship between the United States and Russia.>>
Donald Trump, Jr., has said publicly that the Trump organization has been very dependent on financing from Russia. It perhaps was mostly limited partnership investments by individual Russian oligarchs, highly beneficial to Trump as a general partner, and not technically in conflict with this statement by Trump, from the above NY Times article.
<<“I know nothing about Russia. I know — I know about Russia, but I know nothing about the inner workings of Russia,” Mr. Trump continued. “I don’t deal there. I have no businesses there. I have no loans from Russia.”>>
The U.S. Congress should subpoena Trump organization records to ascertain what Donald Trump, Jr., was talking about and to ascertain why Trump is so supportive of Russian policies to the detriment of the U.S. and its allies, such as with Trump's support of Russian policy in Syria and in Trump's damaging comments about NATO. If Benghazi was such a big concern, why isn't the possibility that a Presidential candidate is dependent for support on financial puppet strings controlled by Russian interests an even bigger concern???
The latest horse **** lie from the msm. There is zero evidence that Russia hacked anyone, but you all keep on with your circle jerk lying to the American public, trying to get a lying, corrupt criminal in to the White House so that your far left leaning marxist desires can come to fruition.
You're not going to get people to stop voting for Trump no matter how many lies the propaganda machine spits out.
Do you all not know the difference between an opinion and a fact? Until they have FACTUAL evidence, their accusations towards Russia are baseless.
Considering how weak Hillary is on Russia, and considering it wasn't but just a short few years ago that all the lefty pukes were laughing at the Republican candidates stating that Russia was not a country we needed to worry about....you all forgot that did you? You screeched about the candidates that said that they were going to be tough with Russia....it's right here on City Data, that's where I saw all the lefties go nuts about it...but now, when it's convenient for you, you all go on about Russia even worse than Michele Bachman ever did, it shouldn't come as a surprise that the MSM and lefties are trying to deflect away from her crappy record on Russia and putting that on Trump. Everything that the left is accusing Trump of, is actually the reality for Clinton. She doesn't know jack all how to handle Russia....it's why she blames them for everything every time she starts to look bad.
The fact is, liberals are lying. MSM is lying. All you have are lies. Hillary and the MSM can't tell you what she'll do for the country, all you have are personal attacks against Trump...which shows another hypocrisy because you all carried on and on about Trump slinging personal attack on the other candidates. When we go low, you go in to the gutter but act as if you're morally superior.
No, liberals and the MSM still come out smelling like trash.
In the end, it doesn't change a damn thing that what is in those emails.....are what is in those emails. Russia didn't write those emails, Hillary and her camp did. You can all try to deflect and blame this on Russia and Trump, the fact remains, Hillary and her camp wrote every last word in those emails.
Those emails reveal that Hillary is a lying scum who can't even think for herself.
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Trump has no ties to russia, he doesn't know Putin and who's hacking is irrelevant, the e mails are the e mails, if these people weren't hiding so many things, they wouldn't have to worry about any of this. If Hillary was honest and trustworthy, anyone can hack all they want and all they would see is an upstanding american citizen.
Trump has no ties to russia, he doesn't know Putin and who's hacking is irrelevant, the e mails are the e mails, if these people weren't hiding so many things, they wouldn't have to worry about any of this. If Hillary was honest and trustworthy, anyone can hack all they want and all they would see is an upstanding american citizen.
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bob - you've been out in the sun too much. If the Russians had hacked us - you would have never found out about it. Since Hillary has said she considered herself part of Putin's inner circle when she was Secretary of State - why would the Russians hack the DNC and uncover info that would put her campaign at risk? If anything after all the help she gave them while she was SOS - they would have hacked the RNC.
The left are really mindless to keep posting carp that has been refuted by multiple sources - of course you wouldn't believe that as the only ones talking about it are the right.
Hillary said it's the Russians, "according to our intelligence". Would those be the same intelligence folks who thought that Benghazi was because of a video no one had ever heard of?
The latest horse **** lie from the msm. There is zero evidence that Russia hacked anyone, but you all keep on with your circle jerk lying to the American public, trying to get a lying, corrupt criminal in to the White House so that your far left leaning marxist desires can come to fruition.
You're not going to get people to stop voting for Trump no matter how many lies the propaganda machine spits out.
Do you all not know the difference between an opinion and a fact? Until they have FACTUAL evidence, their accusations towards Russia are baseless.
Considering how weak Hillary is on Russia, and considering it wasn't but just a short few years ago that all the lefty pukes were laughing at the Republican candidates stating that Russia was not a country we needed to worry about....you all forgot that did you? You screeched about the candidates that said that they were going to be tough with Russia....it's right here on City Data, that's where I saw all the lefties go nuts about it...but now, when it's convenient for you, you all go on about Russia even worse than Michele Bachman ever did, it shouldn't come as a surprise that the MSM and lefties are trying to deflect away from her crappy record on Russia and putting that on Trump. Everything that the left is accusing Trump of, is actually the reality for Clinton. She doesn't know jack all how to handle Russia....it's why she blames them for everything every time she starts to look bad.
The fact is, liberals are lying. MSM is lying. All you have are lies. Hillary and the MSM can't tell you what she'll do for the country, all you have are personal attacks against Trump...which shows another hypocrisy because you all carried on and on about Trump slinging personal attack on the other candidates. When we go low, you go in to the gutter but act as if you're morally superior.
No, liberals and the MSM still come out smelling like trash.
In the end, it doesn't change a damn thing that what is in those emails.....are what is in those emails. Russia didn't write those emails, Hillary and her camp did. You can all try to deflect and blame this on Russia and Trump, the fact remains, Hillary and her camp wrote every last word in those emails.
Those emails reveal that Hillary is a lying scum who can't even think for herself.
Not Russia related but on the topic of lies I am going to ask you to do something I have been unable to get one single Trump supporter to do. Let's see if you are up to the challenge.
Donald Trump has said repeatedly that he can not release his tax returns due to the audit. Now we have heard from the IRS and know this to be untrue. An audit would not prevent the release of his returns. So Donald Trump looked you and me in the eye and LIED. Repeatedly.
Can you admit that? Can you actually acknowledge just one of Mr, Trump's many faults? If you can you would be the first Trump supporter in 9 months of my debates. It is really quite remarkable.. If you can admit it then can you then answer why only lies from the left register on your scoreboard?
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