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Many of the Trump supporters are voters who never voted before and are not true Republicans. They are likely not to vote again. As for the party, though many of us are voting for Trump as our only viable options we are not going to cry too hard if her loses. We pick our selves up just like Democrats will do if Clinton loses. Regardless of what happens something good has come out of all this: The people have let our elected leaders know, they want changes and they need to be listened to; maybe now, some issues will be seriously addressed.
I agree with you and I think, via Bernie, Democrats are on notice as well. Bernie and Warren may be campaigning for Clinton now - but they will be holding her feet to the fire if she gets elected.
Bottom line, with the deadlock we have in Congress - and that's not going away - I don't know how anything will get done.
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I don't think Obamacare will be allowed to spiral out of control. I think as costs escalate, it will become clear that insurance only adds to the costs of healthcare. We are supporting a superfluous industry that exists for profits only, and that also takes any control consumers might have away from them. Universal healthcare will become the only reasonable alternative. And Republicans aren't advocating for universal healthcare.
I have been opposed to Universal Healthcare. But, no more. When I see things like Mylan Pharmaceuticals and the epi -pen - plus that horrid guy - can't remember his name . .
If Trump wins, he takes over the Repub Part. If Trump loses, he goes away and the Republican Party goes back to what it was before the Trump phenomenon.
If Trump wins, he takes over the Repub Part. If Trump loses, he goes away and the Republican Party goes back to what it was before the Trump phenomenon.
Where do the Trump followers go? These people are passionate and enthusiastic. In the same way that the Bernie Sanders supporters were/are passionate and enthusiastic. The parties are being slow to respond to these people, but we are so entrenched in a two-party system that something has got to give.
Where do the Trump followers go? These people are passionate and enthusiastic. In the same way that the Bernie Sanders supporters were/are passionate and enthusiastic. The parties are being slow to respond to these people, but we are so entrenched in a two-party system that something has got to give.
Trump, and Bernie supporters aren't going anywhere. They will be shaping the future of the political parties. Remember that Trump, and Sanders got more votes in the primaries that all the other candidates combined.
If the status quo worked for the average American, there would have never been a Ron Paul, a Donald Trump, or a Bernie Sanders.
Nothing will fuel the movement for change more than 4 years of Hillary Clinton being president.
Hillary, and her administration better enact some very draconian laws to suppress free speech on the internet, or the establishment politicians are going to have a very difficult time every winning again.
Trump, and Bernie supporters aren't going anywhere. They will be shaping the future of the political parties. Remember that Trump, and Sanders got more votes in the primaries that all the other candidates combined.
If the status quo worked for the average American, there would have never been a Ron Paul, a Donald Trump, or a Bernie Sanders.
Nothing will fuel the movement for change more than 4 years of Hillary Clinton being president.
Hillary, and her administration better enact some very draconian laws to suppress free speech on the internet, or the establishment politicians are going to have a very difficult time every winning again.
I agree with the first sentence - we're not going anywhere - but disagree that we'll shape anything. The corporations that control the two parties (one party) will keep doing what they're doing, we'll keep crying about it, and nothing will change. The only way any real change is happening is if it all falls apart.
After the election, will Trump supporters be able to reconcile with Republicans who did not support Trump during the election?
I think this is key to future GOP success. Republicans have to unite in order to advance their agenda, but if Trump supporters reject the Republican establishment agenda, what happens?
I hope they split into two. The CEO division and the Pepe division.
Long time Republican here. If Trump loses I am done with the party, and I believe there are millions of Trump supported who feel the same way....
America has no future.
America most definitely has future. It just won't be a future run by bitter, grumpy, old men.
I don't doubt for a minute that you and those like you are done with the Republican party. High time too. They've sold you out for years.
Trump will have a cable channel where you can watch him, Guiliani, Newt and the Breitbart guy will peddle their conspiracy theories, clearly edited videotapes, and rambling rants for $9.99/month.
The GOP constituency will dwindle to the Religious Right who cling to their dream of shoving their their self-righteous moral code down everyone's throat. Alas, that train has left the station.
By 2020 it will be time for redistricting and game over for the GOP.
At least until the Democrats get overconfident and get everybody on their case.
I agree with you and I think, via Bernie, Democrats are on notice as well. Bernie and Warren may be campaigning for Clinton now - but they will be holding her feet to the fire if she gets elected.
Bottom line, with the deadlock we have in Congress - and that's not going away - I don't know how anything will get done.
I have been opposed to Universal Healthcare. But, no more. When I see things like Mylan Pharmaceuticals and the epi -pen - plus that horrid guy - can't remember his name . .
I think Universal Healthcare is our only answer.
The most conservative guy I know believes that the only way to control the costs of our medicine is to remove all profits from the system.
When I said that was a very socialistic thing to say, he admitted it was. He said that there are some things in life that are more important than money, and health is the most important thing of all. He said that medicine should be seen as a higher calling, just like a call to the priesthood of a church, and that, like churches, money would be found to pay for everything medical.
This is a man who is very wealthy. He can easily afford to pay for his own medical care with no problems, and he sees no harm in paying doctors and all the others well for their work, but medical care should never come down to profit or loss in an accounting ledger.
Had 'Trump' happened to the Democrats this year it would have been the same story. It almost was with Bernie. The problem is that America is waking up. We realize there is very little difference, if any, between many Republicans and many Democrats. It appears everybody is in bed together; including our legal system that used to hold all accountable. We are supposed to have three branches of government and the 'check and balance' systems is our way of insuring fair play - but not anymore! All three branches of government are supposed to represent the people of this Nation that pay their taxes and do the right thing. But, this year has shown us, that only money talks - there is no integrity in government!
I don't know how we will do it; but we have to reestablish faith in the system. That will not come easy after the revelations that came out in this year's election. At this point; I would be happy if both Parties were banned from politics for the next decade.
I agree with the first sentence - we're not going anywhere - but disagree that we'll shape anything. The corporations that control the two parties (one party) will keep doing what they're doing, we'll keep crying about it, and nothing will change. The only way any real change is happening is if it all falls apart.
I don't know if you'll shape anything, but you will shift things. Our government is a huge bureaucracy, but it is constantly changing. The change may be incrementally slow most of the time (not all the time), but change is constantly happening. A clear example is how government policies have reflected the changing attitudes toward homosexuality. While some conservative sections of the populace may not think this change is a good thing, the change in government policy does reflect the change in the majority of the populace's attitude.
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