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Old 11-25-2016, 07:05 AM
 
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And did their votes not count in the election ?

The votes cast counted. The issue was all the votes not cast due to all the impediments put in place to make voting more difficult for certain people.
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Old 11-25-2016, 07:10 AM
 
Location: N Atlanta
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The votes cast counted. The issue was all the votes not cast due to all the impediments put in place to make voting more difficult for certain people.
Really ? What impediments ?

Can you cite specific examples ?
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Old 11-25-2016, 07:21 AM
 
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Really ? What impediments ?

Can you cite specific examples ?

Voter ID's (which is a more difficult task for poor people without their own transportation)
Making it more difficult to get voter ID's in minority areas (less locations and hours)
Reducing early voting via reduction of polling places and hours in minority areas
Reduction of election day polling places in minority areas
Purging of voting rolls through caging list process

These are but a few examples.
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Old 11-25-2016, 07:28 AM
 
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Voter ID's (which is a more difficult task for poor people without their own transportation)
Making it more difficult to get voter ID's in minority areas (less locations and hours)
Reducing early voting via reduction of polling places and hours in minority areas
Reduction of election day polling places in minority areas
Purging of voting rolls through caging list process

These are but a few examples.
These are not specifics. They are generalities.

Please cite specific examples in any state.
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Old 11-25-2016, 07:37 AM
 
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Wisconsin is a great example

Wisconsin’s GOP-controlled legislature:
Cut the early-voting window from 30 days to 12
Eliminated night and weekend voting, banned straight-ticket voting
Made it more difficult both to register to vote and to cast an absentee ballot
Tightened residency requirements.
WI DMV rejected nearly a fifth of all applicants for a voter ID, 85 percent of whom were African American, Latino, or Native American
Disbanded the widely respected nonpartisan agency that oversees state elections and was supposed to educate the public about the voter-ID law.

https://www.thenation.com/article/th...ng-is-working/
University of Wisconsin political scientist Barry Burden calls it “death by a thousand cuts.”
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Old 11-25-2016, 07:48 AM
 
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Wisconsin is a great example

Wisconsin’s GOP-controlled legislature:
Cut the early-voting window from 30 days to 12
Eliminated night and weekend voting, banned straight-ticket voting
Made it more difficult both to register to vote and to cast an absentee ballot
Tightened residency requirements.
WI DMV rejected nearly a fifth of all applicants for a voter ID, 85 percent of whom were African American, Latino, or Native American
Disbanded the widely respected nonpartisan agency that oversees state elections and was supposed to educate the public about the voter-ID law.

https://www.thenation.com/article/th...ng-is-working/
University of Wisconsin political scientist Barry Burden calls it “death by a thousand cuts.â€
Dear,

All those changes were eliminated on August 1. This destroys your narrative.

Judge strikes down Wisconsin voter ID, early voting laws
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Old 11-25-2016, 07:51 AM
 
Location: N Atlanta
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Wisconsin is a great example

Wisconsin’s GOP-controlled legislature:
Cut the early-voting window from 30 days to 12
Eliminated night and weekend voting, banned straight-ticket voting
Made it more difficult both to register to vote and to cast an absentee ballot
Tightened residency requirements.
WI DMV rejected nearly a fifth of all applicants for a voter ID, 85 percent of whom were African American, Latino, or Native American
Disbanded the widely respected nonpartisan agency that oversees state elections and was supposed to educate the public about the voter-ID law.

https://www.thenation.com/article/th...ng-is-working/
University of Wisconsin political scientist Barry Burden calls it “death by a thousand cuts.”
Easy to blame the loss on the Wisconsin GOP ... where were the Wisconsin Democrats putting out the correct information for folks prior to the election ? They had FOUR years since the last presidential election.

https://ballotpedia.org/Voting_in_Wisconsin

To vote in Wisconsin, one needed to be a resident only 10 days prior to the election. How is that tightening residency requirements ?

Wisconsin does not require a voter ID, just a driver's license. There are multiple forms of ID acceptable if one does not have a driver's license.

Fact is the buttercups can't fathom how a perennial blue state finally turned red, just like Michigan, PA and Ohio.
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Old 11-25-2016, 07:53 AM
 
Location: Billings, MT
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Voter ID's (which is a more difficult task for poor people without their own transportation)
Making it more difficult to get voter ID's in minority areas (less locations and hours)
Reducing early voting via reduction of polling places and hours in minority areas
Reduction of election day polling places in minority areas
Purging of voting rolls through caging list process

These are but a few examples.
I find it strange that for many years:
There was no early voting, you voted on election day unless you got an absentee ballot.
There was no late registration, you registered by the cut-off date, or you didn't vote.
Absentee ballots were only sent to those who had a valid reason for asking for them.
Yet, people voted.
I also find it strange that so many people can purchase cigarettes and alcoholic beverages, sign up for welfare benefits, cash checks, borrow money, rent homes, sign up for utilities, get Social Security benefits, have bank accounts, etc.; all of which require identification, yet they can't seem to get a valid ID card for voting. In fact, when one registers to vote, a card is given or mailed that has the registrants name and address on it.
In some states, the majority of ballots are cast by mail. the election department sends ballots to all registered voters, the voter marks the ballot, puts it in a security envelope, puts that envelope in a mailing envelope, signs and dates where indicated, puts a stamp on it, and mails it.
Now I suppose the lefties will say that there are those who are too poor to afford a stamp!
I can't help but think of those arrested in the riots in Portland, Oregon. Over half of them were not registered to vote, and those who were registered did not vote, yet they were rioting over the election results. Strange that they could not get registered and/or vote, but they could find the money, time, and transportation to join the protest!
Those who truly want to vote will find a way to comply with the requirements. Those who would rather sit at home and whine will not.
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Old 11-25-2016, 07:58 AM
 
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Easy to blame the loss on the Wisconsin GOP ... where were the Wisconsin Democrats putting out the correct information for folks prior to the election ? They had FOUR years since the last presidential election.

https://ballotpedia.org/Voting_in_Wisconsin

To vote in Wisconsin, one needed to be a resident only 10 days prior to the election. How is that tightening residency requirements ?

Wisconsin does not require a voter ID, just a driver's license. There are multiple forms of ID acceptable if one does not have a driver's license.

Fact is the buttercups can't fathom how a perennial blue state finally turned red, just like Michigan, PA and Ohio.
I would like to take your points step further. The states with all of this nasty business of voter fraud and proper ID. I would like to say the election were more accurate than the last 2 election with President Obama.
If we remember Cleveland and Philly did not have one vote for Romney! seems outrageous to me. Plus the fact the Black Panthers were patrolling and intimidating would be Romney voters?


In which Holder, again did not prosecute.
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Old 11-25-2016, 08:17 AM
 
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Voter ID's (which is a more difficult task for poor people without their own transportation)
Making it more difficult to get voter ID's in minority areas (less locations and hours)
Reducing early voting via reduction of polling places and hours in minority areas
Reduction of election day polling places in minority areas
Purging of voting rolls through caging list process

These are but a few examples.
BS...here in Ohio the polling place I vote at have poor minorities due to the proximity of the public housing development to the church where it is held in their gym.All you need is a utility bill with a current address and there are rules for voting in elections for that very reason voter fraud.
We also had early voting,absentee ballots the Scioto County Board of Elections is in the Court House across the street from the Welfare office and minorities have no trouble getting there to collect their social welfare.
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