The 2018 Democratic Wave Is About More Than Congress (John Kerry, Democrats, Republicans)

[ahzzie]

Originally Posted by juneaubound

1. And that my friends, is why we have been hearing so much about how downtrodden women are and how really really bad privileged white males are. The stage has been set.

2. Four months ago CNN posted a piece indicating that Democrats had won 6 previously GOP-held seats. Unless it's been a busy four months, Huffpo's numbers are off:

https://www.cnn.com/2017/09/13/polit...ire/index.html

Having posted that I don't want to dismiss those numbers or the trends that have taken shape over the past year. Both the "ginning up women" movement and the loss of GOP seats are real, and I hope that the GOP (and conservative voters) are paying attention.

So you don't feel that women and minorities should be running for office?

[juneaubound]

Originally Posted by ahzzie

So you don't feel that women and minorities should be running for office?

Never said that. Re-read my post.

[JAMS14]

Originally Posted by dashrendar4454

Don't worry. Once more money goes in people's pockets and Millionaire Nancy Pelosi keeps calling it " crumbs" I think the warming up to the Dems will be short lived ]

Also important to note, the link in the OP is talking about local elections as well as national ones. This is where a wave begins. Republicans used this as an effective strategy in the 1970s across the South, supporting candidates for local city, county and state offices to build a grassroots political organization. That's what the focus is on now for the Democrats.

Remember, in the end all politics is local.

[workingclasshero]

Originally Posted by JAMS14

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. As a progressive Democrat, I'd say awakening the next progressive wave will be his greatest and most lasting achievement.

and if the "progressive democrats" also known as globalist fascist liberals continue killing the country with things like pushing DACA...their days will be numbered

[jroddaman]

Originally Posted by workingclasshero

and if the "progressive democrats" also known as globalist fascist liberals continue killing the country with things like pushing DACA...their days will be numbered

Can you please define liberal and then define fascist - preferably from a reputable source. Just want to make sure you know what the meaning of those words are.

You not understanding the words you are using devalues the message you are trying to get across. Just trying to help you is all.

[workingclasshero]

Originally Posted by jroddaman

Can you please define liberal and then define fascist - preferably from a reputable source. Just want to make sure you know what the meaning of those words are.

You not understanding the words you are using devalues the message you are trying to get across. Just trying to help you is all.

oh I do..... American liberalism is fascism

american liberalism(which is NOT classic liberalism), Marxism(communism), Nazi-ism, socialism, fascism(socialism lite) all come from the progressive movement

FDR was a fascist and admired the fascists and Mussolini

FD. Roosevelt, found in Mussolini's policies part of his inspiration for the semi-socialist "New Deal" and referred to Mussolini in 1933 as "that admirable Italian gentleman". Mussolini was plausible to an amazingly wide range of people -- not the least to the people of Italy.

fascism is socialism lite...its left wing

Mussolini's Fascist program was a mixture of radical left, moderate left, democratic, and liberal measures.
Mussolini was the Che Guevara of his day, a living saint of leftism. Handsome, courageous, charismatic, an erudite Marxist, a riveting speaker and writer, a dedicated class warrior to the core, he was the peerless duce of the Italian Left. He looked like the head of any future Italian socialist government, elected or revolutionary.

""Fascism is a system in which the government leaves nominal ownership of the means of production in the hands of private individuals but exercises control by means of regulatory legislation and reaps most of the profit by means of heavy taxation. In effect, fascism is simply a more subtle form of government ownership than is socialism."" Mussolini

hmm high taxes...super control (authoritarian) by regulations...sounds like the American liberals to anyone with common sense

Marxism(communism),socialism, fascism, Nazi-ism...all from the progressive movement

"A Marxist/progressive/Fascist/Liberal begins with his prime truth that all evils are caused by the capitalists. From this he logically proceeds to the revolution to end capitalism, then into the third stage of reorganization into a new social order of socialism, and finally the last stage -- the political paradise of communism." Saul Alinsky

We are socialists, we are enemies of today's capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are all determined to destroy this system under all conditions." --Adolf Hitler on german fascism

simple things like 'nationalizing' corporations, nationalization of all trusts(banks),social security, emanate domain(agrarian reform) , removing the guns from the people, demand the end of capitalism, state(country) provided education, blame the jews (or the modern version 'the zionists'),.. 'fairness doctrine"( censorship of talk radio),, singlepayer health, redistribution of wealth).....COMMON GOOD BEFORE INDIVIDUAL GOOD

DO THESE SOUND FAMILIAR, YES THE ARE THE TALKING POINTS OF THE LIBERALS, THE DNC AND MOVEON.ORG...............................THEY ARE ALSO A LARGE PART OF HITLERS 25 POINTS




the Nazi's were calling themselves socialists...but they were actually fascists

both Hitler and Mussolini were avid supporters of unions

"As things stand today, the unions in my opinion cannot be dispensed with. On the contrary, they are among the most important institutions of the nation's economic life. Their significance lies not only in the social and political field, but even more in the general field of national politics. A people whose broad masses, through a sound trade-union movement, obtain the satisfaction of their living requirements and at the same time an education, will be tremendously strengthened in its power of resistance in the struggle for existence".

sounds like something pelosi,or reid would say...yet it was hitler who said it(chap 12 of mein kampf)

The primary goal of Germany’s national socialists was to “create a classless” society. Hitler’s unions were central in this cause. In fact, Hitler gave the unions their long-awaited demand, one that the Weimar unions were never able to pull off, a National Labor Day, May 1, 1933.




fascism came to America under progressive Wilson, and the fascist liberal FDR..

[AnywhereElse]

I'm not concerned at all. Pelosi and Schumer are gifts to the GOP that "keep on giving". Also, I do not believe that local elections have anything to do with Trump as POTUS. The focus right now is illegal immigration and just whether that is more important to Americans than what the issues were during the presidential campaign: economy, healthcare, jobs and security/terrorism. I don't see illegal aliens rising to the top there.

[dsjj251]

Originally Posted by dashrendar4454

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Don't worry. Once more money goes in people's pockets and Millionaire Nancy Pelosi keeps calling it " crumbs" I think the warming up to the Dems will be short lived



https://hotair.com/archives/2018/01/...mpression=true

Just 2 years ago, people on your side of the aisle were calling newly created part time jobs where people earned 10,000 to 15,000 a year "crumbs", but for some reason you think a 1,000 one time bonus isn't .

I just don't understand your logic here .

[jroddaman]

Originally Posted by workingclasshero

oh I do..... American liberalism is fascism

american liberalism(which is NOT classic liberalism), Marxism(communism), Nazi-ism, socialism, fascism(socialism lite) all come from the progressive movement

FDR was a fascist and admired the fascists and Mussolini

FD. Roosevelt, found in Mussolini's policies part of his inspiration for the semi-socialist "New Deal" and referred to Mussolini in 1933 as "that admirable Italian gentleman". Mussolini was plausible to an amazingly wide range of people -- not the least to the people of Italy.




fascism is socialism lite...its left wing

Mussolini's Fascist program was a mixture of radical left, moderate left, democratic, and liberal measures.
Mussolini was the Che Guevara of his day, a living saint of leftism. Handsome, courageous, charismatic, an erudite Marxist, a riveting speaker and writer, a dedicated class warrior to the core, he was the peerless duce of the Italian Left. He looked like the head of any future Italian socialist government, elected or revolutionary.






hmm high taxes...super control (authoritarian) by regulations...sounds like the American liberals to anyone with common sense

Marxism(communism),socialism, fascism, Nazi-ism...all from the progressive movement







simple things like 'nationalizing' corporations, nationalization of all trusts(banks),social security, emanate domain(agrarian reform) , removing the guns from the people, demand the end of capitalism, state(country) provided education, blame the jews (or the modern version 'the zionists'),.. 'fairness doctrine"( censorship of talk radio),, singlepayer health, redistribution of wealth).....COMMON GOOD BEFORE INDIVIDUAL GOOD

DO THESE SOUND FAMILIAR, YES THE ARE THE TALKING POINTS OF THE LIBERALS, THE DNC AND MOVEON.ORG...............................THEY ARE ALSO A LARGE PART OF HITLERS 25 POINTS




the Nazi's were calling themselves socialists...but they were actually fascists

both Hitler and Mussolini were avid supporters of unions

sounds like something pelosi,or reid would say...yet it was hitler who said it(chap 12 of mein kampf)

The primary goal of Germany’s national socialists was to “create a classless” society. Hitler’s unions were central in this cause. In fact, Hitler gave the unions their long-awaited demand, one that the Weimar unions were never able to pull off, a National Labor Day, May 1, 1933.




fascism came to America under progressive Wilson, and the fascist liberal FDR..

Parsing quotes without context does nothing to improve your point either.

You also failed to quote a single credible source for your definition of liberalism and fascism, but instead provided one yourself.

Why engage in a debate when the other party fails to recognize common definitions and facts that have been established as normal for generations? There is an obvious disconnect from reality that frankly, is not worth the time to engage.

Good day sir.

[workingclasshero]

Originally Posted by jroddaman

Parsing quotes without context does nothing to improve your point either.

You also failed to quote a single credible source for your definition of liberalism and fascism, but instead provided one yourself.

Why engage in a debate when the other party fails to recognize common definitions and facts that have been established as normal for generations? There is an obvious disconnect from reality that frankly, is not worth the time to engage.

Good day sir.

common definitions??? book definitions from 100 years ago??

there is a big difference between the definition of a "classic liberal" and a modern American liberal

""Fascism is a system in which the government leaves nominal ownership of the means of production in the hands of private individuals but exercises control by means of regulatory legislation and reaps most of the profit by means of heavy taxation. In effect, fascism is simply a more subtle form of government ownership than is socialism."" Mussolini

hmm high taxes...super control (authoritarian) by regulations...sounds like the American liberals to anyone with common sense

Marxism(communism),socialism, fascism, American liberalism, Nazi-ism(german fascism)...all from the progressive movement


the fact is simple...modern American liberals are the same as the fascists of the 30's

FDR admired and emulated fascism.... and the modern liberals have followed suit, lock step

"A Marxist/progressive/Fascist/Liberal begins with his prime truth that all evils are caused by the capitalists. From this he logically proceeds to the revolution to end capitalism, then into the third stage of reorganization into a new social order of socialism, and finally the last stage -- the political paradise of communism." Saul Alinsky