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Old 01-16-2019, 08:25 PM
 
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Isn't the GOP canceling 2020 primaries to protect their orange snowflake? Or have they realized how bad that would look?

Like the DNC in 2012 with Obama? They did everything they could to keep Hillary out of it then. If she had gone in, she'd have beaten Obama. Everyone knows this. Obama was a whipped dog. His only saving grace is they GOP stupidly put up the hapless Mitt Romney.
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Old 01-17-2019, 07:59 AM
 
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Like the DNC in 2012 with Obama? They did everything they could to keep Hillary out of it then. If she had gone in, she'd have beaten Obama. Everyone knows this. Obama was a whipped dog. His only saving grace is they GOP stupidly put up the hapless Mitt Romney.
This post is nonsensical. Hillary was SOS in 2012. They are barred from taking part in any partisan/political activities. Hillary was not going too run in 2012.


And Romney actually won a higher percentage of the vote that Trump would win in 2016. Heck- I know Republicans who actually prefer Obama to Trump- doesn't mean they would vote for Hillary. One who never voted for Ds even joked they should postpone the 2016 elections because the candidates were so rotten. He was willing to go Bernie, Obama or Biden to dodge Trump. Unfortunately for Hil-dog, she was the one bridge too far.
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Old 01-17-2019, 01:29 PM
 
Location: SC
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Like the DNC in 2012 with Obama? They did everything they could to keep Hillary out of it then. If she had gone in, she'd have beaten Obama. Everyone knows this. Obama was a whipped dog. His only saving grace is they GOP stupidly put up the hapless Mitt Romney.
Which DNC primaries were canceled? Can you please report that without quoting something false or issuing an opinion?

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Old 01-17-2019, 04:46 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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No wonder California's government is predominantly democrats.
Wit this self proclaimed Rob Stutzman, a veteran GOP consultant in Sacramento, Calif.,
If this "dem wannabee" was consulting Republicans in California, it is no wonder Republican politicians in the state are non existent.

Bob.
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Old 01-17-2019, 05:51 PM
 
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Other than Reagan/Bush- since 1952, every party has held power power for eight years then handed it back to the other party. Reagan helds Ds to 4 and his VP was able to extend an R run to 12. But otherwise 8, 8, 8 (4, 12) 8, 8, and Trump will have his 4. The trickier item is that Rs have only won the popular vote once in the last 7 elections. Sooner or later Dems are bound to catch a break. And if Americans hated Ds more how did the least popular Democratic nominee of the last 60 years still win more votes than Trump?

popular votes don't win Presidential elections regardless if California and the rest of the sanctuary states keep filling their cities with immigration.



Trump was a true outsider. He wasn't supported by the GOP establishment and still won a 17 candidate primary.....all 3 previous GOP Presidential candidates didn't support or campaign for Trump ( W Bush, Mccain, and Romney) they actually rather see Hillary win than Trump due to her neocon foreign policy and globalism on trade deals.



with all that against him and being outspent 3 to 1 and a hostile media, Trump won 30 states and 306 EV.......name me 1 Democrat candidate that can do what Trump did without the support of the Democrat establishment and without the support of the last 3 Democrat Presidential candidates?......Bernie Sanders couldn't do it, he couldn't beat the least popular Democrat nominee of the last 60 years and Sanders is the most popular Senator and politician in the U.S. Senate and the Democrat establishment didn't go hard on Sanders as the GOP establishment went after Trump.
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Old 01-17-2019, 06:06 PM
 
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This post is nonsensical. Hillary was SOS in 2012. They are barred from taking part in any partisan/political activities. Hillary was not going too run in 2012.


And Romney actually won a higher percentage of the vote that Trump would win in 2016. Heck- I know Republicans who actually prefer Obama to Trump- doesn't mean they would vote for Hillary. One who never voted for Ds even joked they should postpone the 2016 elections because the candidates were so rotten. He was willing to go Bernie, Obama or Biden to dodge Trump. Unfortunately for Hil-dog, she was the one bridge too far.



higher % of the votes doesn't mean anything since in 2016 you had more candidates running in 3rd parties of Gary Johson and Weld that took almost 5 million votes and Jill Stein that took half a million.....it wasn't the case for Romney in 2012.



Did Romney win Florida, Iowa, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin? he choked like Mccain.




Trump got 2 million votes more than Romney and he won Florida, Iowa, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin without much help from Romney or the GOP establishment and outspent by Hillary 3 to 1.
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Old 01-19-2019, 10:02 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Here is a name to consider and watch

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Would It Make Sense For Larry Hogan to Primary Trump?
https://www.nationalreview.com/corne...primary-trump/

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A Politico report this morning about Maryland Governor Larry Hogan – including a scheduled trip to Iowa in March – has people buzzing about whether Hogan will launch a primary challenge to President Trump in 2020. Hogan, prudently, is coy on the subject, but let’s assume for the sake of argument that he actually decided to run. Would it make sense for Hogan to do that?

To answer that question, you first have to ask what “make sense” means. There are three possible reasons to run for president, and while many candidates have more than one such reason, you really only need one. One, you think you can win the nomination. Two, you think there is something that needs to be said, a message that won’t get heard unless you run. Three, you think your career will be advanced by having run.
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Old 01-19-2019, 12:12 PM
 
Location: West Palm Beach, FL
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Here is a name to consider and watch



https://www.nationalreview.com/corne...primary-trump/
Hogan is a RINO, he'd never win a national GOP primary. I only voted for him because the alternative, Ben Jealous, was 100 times worse.
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Old 01-19-2019, 12:39 PM
 
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I don't think it is lost on anyone that the Mueller Iceberg and Trump Titanic are on a collision course, including many Republicans who are chomping at the bit the be the next GOP standard bearer. This article is from Washington Examiner which has a very conservative leaning. They are making the case that Trump will be challenged from within the party.



https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/n...ulling-trigger



Now I could be wrong but personally I think it is a question if the GOP itself can survive a post-Trump presidency. They are now looking down the barrel of a demographic disaster, which brings up a few other questions, is Trump a Russian agent...or a Democratic plant???
The left has been predicting this for half a dozen elections now, yet deny they are trying to import illegal aliens, and not purposefully trying to use divisive identity politics for their own power grab benefits.

As to the Mueller iceberg, I seriously doubt this political witchhunt will result in real crimes, and is designed to damage his 2020 chances.
Frankly if Mueller & Democrats try to imply lawbreaking or even create an atmosphere of fake charges based on allegations, doctored dossier's, etc., they will damage themselves more than anything.

As to GOP challengers, I suspect someone like Romney might do it, if he perceives Trump being weak enough.
However I do not think he can get the support needed to defeat a (D) running against him, unless one of their communist/socialist Dodo birds gets on the ticket.

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Old 01-19-2019, 04:58 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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This post is nonsensical. Hillary was SOS in 2012. They are barred from taking part in any partisan/political activities. Hillary was not going too run in 2012.
Um, they are barred only from raising money or campaigning for other politicians, not themselves.

She could have run in 2012 and if she had, she might have won.
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