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Old 03-23-2019, 07:01 AM
 
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Actually, the KKK was the militant arm of the Democrat party. There was no great switch, whereby KKK members suddenly became Republicans. I challenge you to present some evidence to say otherwise.
LOL what better example that most of the whites who voted in southern states for democrats in the 70s including racists KKK members are now voting Republican

It’s always funny to me when Republicans bring up the old southern democrats racists of the 70s but don’t want to admit they are now Republicans
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Old 03-23-2019, 07:40 AM
 
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Seems he is claiming that she will add to his campaign because she is a black female. I honestly think we are losing our minds if that is going to make a difference, but I guess it does. I wish people would just hire the best people and the smartest. We need the best people these days regardless of their sex or race. Those two components shouldn't matter!! Geez!

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bid...s-running-mate

That would be a disaster. Stacey Adams just have the "gift of gab" nothing more.
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Old 03-23-2019, 11:38 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Seems he is claiming that she will add to his campaign because she is a black female. I honestly think we are losing our minds if that is going to make a difference, but I guess it does. I wish people would just hire the best people and the smartest. We need the best people these days regardless of their sex or race. Those two components shouldn't matter!! Geez!

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bid...s-running-mate
let's wait until he announces before deciding or talking about a running mate. How often has the presidentual candidate chosen someone the public thinks he will? not often
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Old 03-23-2019, 11:44 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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Seems he is claiming that she will add to his campaign because she is a black female. I honestly think we are losing our minds if that is going to make a difference, but I guess it does.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bid...s-running-mate
He's choosing her so he's bulletproof. The "over the cliff" lefties (Think Brides of ISIS sitting there during the SOTU speech) won't dare attack him during the primaries for being old and white and male. If that's what he's up to he should have chosen a black muslim female but then it might be hard for him in the general election.
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Old 03-23-2019, 12:20 PM
 
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Huge mistake to select Abrams. Beto would be a much better choice..
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Old 03-23-2019, 01:49 PM
 
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Hold up...doesn’t “younger minorities” already vote almost exclusively for the dems??
When they vote, yes, but the issue for the Dems is getting them to vote.

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Abrams lost by a gnat's whisker in a state where no one ever believed a black woman would ever get that close to winning.

That's a sign of some real rising political star power. Stacey didn't get as close as she did on her looks, either. She did it using her smarts.


For a Presidential candidate who's very well known and has been around for a very long time, it's harder to present theirselves more viable than younger, fresher, lesser-known opponents who don't have the baggage dragging around behind them the older guys have. All that past.

The past is for the old folks, The future belongs to the young. That's the way the 21st century is going. So for John McCain, Sarah Palin, a much younger female on the rise, looked like a real good choice as VP. A counter-balance to age and a fresh face that didn't have the old mistakes of a long past that could be used against her like it could for McCain.

Palin was a new box of New and Improved! standing next to the old box of Old Reliable. And she did help McCain's election chances quite a lot, but not in the ways McCain intended. I'm sure he never expected to see her name above his on some of his campaign signs, for sure. But she brought McCain a lot more attention than he would have gotten if he had picked Joe Lieberman instead.

All this could be said about Mitt Romney's choice of Paul Ryan in 2012. Ryan is younger, he's good looking, and was another conservative rising star in 2012 that had no political tarnish on him yet.

I think Biden is looking at Abrams in much the same way. And if Biden decides not to run, Stacey could become available to someone Joe backs as a possible VP pick, so her star power wouldn't necessarily be wasted if he dropped out. Stacey is smart enough to gauge another person's chances of success, and she wouldn't go along with someone she thinks is going to be a loser.

There's something to be said in announcing a VP choice as early as possible nowadays it seems. It makes good tactical sense, as the VP can get out on the trail and cover more ground than the candidate alone can cover, and the early campaign is becoming increasingly more important than in the past.

I think the voters like to see a balance in a candidate and the VP candidate. One who is older or younger, one who is less or more experienced than the other, and one who compliments the other in speech and personal appearance.

Selecting a VP choice who's younger is nothing at all new. Ike did it, Nixon did it, and Bush #1 did it. The younger candidates tend to choose VPs who are either older or have more experience than they do.

Either presents a balanced pair to the voters.
She rode the wave of "I hate Trump, thus hate Republicans, and a vote against Republicans is a vote against Trump", nothing more. After that energy is gone, so are those who rode the wave.

So essentially, we will see...
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Old 03-23-2019, 01:58 PM
 
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She rode the wave of "I hate Trump, thus hate Republicans, and a vote against Republicans is a vote against Trump", nothing more. After that energy is gone, so are those who rode the wave.
That energy won't be gone as long as Trump is president.
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Old 03-23-2019, 02:27 PM
 
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That energy won't be gone as long as Trump is president.
Exactly. The reality is that a Trump has a group of diehards but also has a group that will not vote for him. The number of independents/ undecided that might flip for him is not large. In 2016 he had Hillary which had also a large number of people that dislike her and were not going to vote for her so many undecided decided to take a shot with Trump that had little record. That’s nit the case in 2020 unless the Dems put up someone with a large number of negatives around them.
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Old 03-23-2019, 08:14 PM
 
Location: Greenville SC 'Waterfall City'
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LOL what better example that most of the whites who voted in southern states for democrats in the 70s including racists KKK members are now voting Republican

It’s always funny to me when Republicans bring up the old southern democrats racists of the 70s but don’t want to admit they are now Republicans
You have provided no evidence of this.

Only 1 of the segregationist Democrats switched to the Republican party. The rest remained Democrats.

Just 19 years ago, Democrats nominated the son of a segregationist Democrat senator, Al Gore, who opposed and filibustered the Civil Rights Act in 1964. I can't see the GOP nominating the son of a segregationist.

Bill Clinton's protege in Arkansas was the segregationist WIlliam Fullbright.

Republicans could make a case that Bill Clinton and Gore were popular with white Democrat voters because of their ties to white segregationists. That is what Democrats would do if Clinton and Gore are Republicans.

If racists flipped to the GOP, then you should be able to point to racist policy advocated by the GOP. There has to be a carrot to bring white racists over to the GOP as a group.

You will have to resort to irrational arguments such as GOP's support for photo ID to vote is racist or building a wall on the border to prevent illegal immigration is somehow racist.

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Old 03-23-2019, 08:26 PM
 
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So Biden gets a token black woman and her job is to agree everything that old white man says.... That's the real reason he chose her.... The more things change, the more they stay the same...
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