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[MMS02760]

Trump is very popular in land regions where there are few sane people.

[Bureaucat]

Originally Posted by MMS02760

Trump is very popular in land regions where there are few sane people.

He does very well with the hermit/bison/coyote/scarecrow demos.

[Pilot1]

We are a REPUBLIC not a Democracy. STATES elect Presidents, not PEOPLE. That's the system. Don't like it, amend the Constitution. It has been done many times before.

The Electoral College works as designed as it protects the entire country from being DICTATED to by a few population centers.

[James Bond 007]

Originally Posted by Pilot1

We are a REPUBLIC not a Democracy. STATES elect Presidents, not PEOPLE. That's the system. Don't like it, amend the Constitution. It has been done many times before.

We ARE talking about STATES. The OP is complaining that WITHIN many states, most of the counties went republican. But they are mostly sparsely populated counties. The counties with the most population tended to go blue.

Your objection is mistaking states for counties. If a certain STATE has 10 counties, and one of them has a million people and the other 9 have only 10,000 each, then the one county with 1 million is going to dominate the STATE's election results. That has nothing to do with the electoral college. It has to do with the population distribution WITHIN a state.

[dsjj251]

Originally Posted by Pilot1

We are a REPUBLIC not a Democracy. STATES elect Presidents, not PEOPLE. That's the system. Don't like it, amend the Constitution. It has been done many times before.

The Electoral College works as designed as it protects the entire country from being DICTATED to by a few population centers.

No it doesnt. It exist so slave states were equal to mostly white states.

Virginia for example, only had around 800,000 residents total, 480,000 free residents in 1800, and 322,000 slaves. Compared to New York with 586,000 total residents and only, and only 15,000 being slaves.

They wanted slaves counted, but not voting.

[banjomike]

Originally Posted by Pilot1

We are a REPUBLIC not a Democracy. STATES elect Presidents, not PEOPLE. That's the system. Don't like it, amend the Constitution. It has been done many times before.

The Electoral College works as designed as it protects the entire country from being DICTATED to by a few population centers.

The population centers are not 'few'. There is at least one in every state, and almost always more than one.

In states with low population, the center city where the population is concentrated doesn't have to be all that large. There are 6 states with less than 1 million people: Delaware, Vermont, North Dakota, South Dakota, Alaska and Wyoming.
Wyoming has 579,000 people. If 10% of them live in one city, that's enough to be dominant with 57,900 residents. A town that size is not, by any current measure, a large city.

Cheyenne is the largest city in Wyoming. It has 63,600 residents. That's 11% of the population. Enough for an election to be contested and swung by one small city. But if Laramie, WY, votes with Cheyenne, the 59,000 who live there will make a victory decisive.

On the other hand, Nevada, the 9th least populated but the 7th in size, has a population of 3 million. 75% of them live in Clark county, home of Las Vegas. That means 2,250,000 of that 3 million live in one county.

But Las Vegas is not the only population center in Nevada. Reno is the other. So out of the 750,000 people who don't live in Las Vegas, 245,000 live in Reno. That leaves the other 505,000 scattered all over the state in little bunches.
So if the voters in Las Vegas and Reno vote for the same presidential candidate, all the rest of the state's voters won't make any difference. Even if Reno votes opposite of Las Vegas, it still won't make any difference. Las Vegas dictates every presidential election, period.

You're right saying states elect Presidents, but the president is the only official the people don't vote for directly. People elect all their other representatives from local Mayor to Capitol hill.

The electoral college can be argued both ways, for or against, with something to be said that's equally valid.

But even in the small states with low population, their population centers can still dictate their presidential choices once they grow large enough. And in some small states, 'large' isn't all that large in comparison to more highly populated states.

The west is rapidly growing, but the migrants aren't moving to the little towns. They are moving to the cities.

[Ralph_N_1962]

something like 97 of 105 counties in IL went for Trump.

People like to label IL as a blue state - it really isn't. Its better to think of it as a small very blue city-state called Chicago and a large red downstate land mass. They are as divided as you can imagine.

[dsjj251]

Originally Posted by Ralph_N_1962

something like 97 of 105 counties in IL went for Trump.

People like to label IL as a blue state - it really isn't. Its better to think of it as a small very blue city-state called Chicago and a large red downstate land mass. They are as divided as you can imagine.

If the majority of a States population lives in or around the city and they vote blue, then it is indeed a "blue state"


Cook County has 5.1 million people. Iroquois County has 29,000 people, but is geographically larger.

The map below is how you should actually view the county in respect to counties and votes.

http://www.viewsoftheworld.net/wp-co...6Cartogram.png


US Presidential Election 2016 - Views of the World

[Kevroqs]

Originally Posted by Bureaucat

So?

People vote, not acres or coyotes.

Coyotes are more civilized than the homeless bums in LA or SF that poop on the sidewalk or shoot up drugs in the streets.

[James Bond 007]

And my cat is more civilized than your garden variety Trump Cultist.

But that doesn't mean she votes.