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No, I have no problems with the definition of those words. I do have a problem with the suggestion that people need to go to school to learn how to form their own opinions though! When you sit in a classroom you learn what the teacher wants you to learn and in the context he/she chooses. some are very fair and balanced, others are not. That is what I am getting at.
FWIW - the Kos is a very pro-Obama site as is the Huffington post. That is likely why you were called out on those 2. And double checking those sources may have been a PITA but at least you did it!
Obama's Communist Mentor - Cliff Kincaid - Feb 19, 08 (http://www.americandaily.com/article/21673 - broken link)
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Obama had an admitted relationship with someone who was publicly identified as a member of the Communist Party USA (CPUSA). The record shows that Obama was in Hawaii from 1971-1979, where, at some point in time, he developed a close relationship, almost like a son, with Davis, listening to his "poetry" and getting advice on his career path. But Obama, in his book, Dreams From My Father, refers to him repeatedly as just "Frank."
The reason is apparent: Davis was a known communist who belonged to a party subservient to the Soviet Union. In fact, the 1951 report of the Commission on Subversive Activities to the Legislature of the Territory of Hawaii identified him as a CPUSA member. What's more, anti-communist congressional committees, including the House Un-American Activities Committee (HUAC), accused Davis of involvement in several communist-front organizations.
Being called names doesn't bother me very much...par for the course on CD. Sheep bites is all, no biggie!
[LEFT]The plan was multi-faceted, and all backed by Moscow. Over a period of time, take over the media, take over the educational system, attack religion and get God out of every facet of life as possible, use minorities, labor unions, and disaffected groups to further their goals, and shift the country as far left as possible using laws, regulations, and the court system. Add to this taking over the federal courts, increasing the size and number of the social programs, make people more reliant on government (and less on God, family and local communities), and finally try to disarm the American public. Peasants with firearms were not conducive to totalitarianism. [...] In the 1950s, Soviet Premier Nikita Kruschev made the bold statement “We will bury you without firing a shot.†[/LEFT]
I can't believe the people are still looking for the 'communist under the pillow'. So Obama knew a guy who was a communist, I once wrote an article for an anarchist zine and knew a few college aged palestinian scarf wearing communist wannabe sorts myself in my younger days (it was a 'college rebellion thing'). Those sorts were a dime a dozen in big cities (less so now it seems), especially if one is involved with community organizing in any way shape or form.
The cold war is over, communist regimes have thankfully failed, Obama has no history of enacting communistic doctrine or legislation in the Illinois senate or during his days as a local politician here in Chicago. There is nothing more to see here except by the paranoid.
When I think of Cold War Communism, I think of mind control, miltary spending, domestic spying, forced patriotism, high inflation, housing problems, food shortages and high prices, and gas shortages and high prices. So if McCain is Bush 2, then welcome to Moscow.
I actually spent a summer in Moscow immediately after the Soviet Union collapsed and as cynical as I occasionally get about the direction the US has taken, I am still quite thankful I live in Chicago over that city. I suppose that is why I get a little irritated about people who throw around the word 'communist' so ignorantly. I saw first hand the fall out of its failure, and just laugh when people start accusing US politicians of being communists as I spoke to more than one 'actual communists' during my stay.
the fact that no one really ever suffered under communism, but rather under military dictatorships masquerading under a utopian name seems to escape people.
Communism is more of an economic ideology and as such is enforced subjectively based on the whims of the state (or the ruler of the state), capitalism and socialism is the same way. This is why a nation like Sweden can be socialist and it looks entirely different from another nation that claims to be socialist. This is why East-German communism looked different from Albanian communism, etc. This is why English capitalism looks different from American capitalism looks different from Canadian capitalism, etc.
There is no one way to be capitalist, communist, socialist, etc.
BTW if Obama was really a communist, he wouldn't have been elected as senator of Illinois.
I lived in Western Europe from 1979 to 1999. So trust me when I tell you Obama is so far from being a Socialist.
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