Ron Paul supporters: Why has Paul been soundly rejected?

[UpperPeninsulaRon]

Originally Posted by TheJickler

People don't want to take the time to study him. They don't want to take the time to study anyone, so they rely on the media to tell them. They just wait until the media tells them who the candidates are, and then they just pick between them.

It's very sad if you think about it.

You are right. The concepts that Ron Paul talks about requires a bit more thinking and I'm afraid that does not work with the majority.

I forgot which candidate from long ago was told "You have the thinking person's vote". The candidate replied "But I need a majority of the vote!".

[NewToCA]

Originally Posted by Kristynwy

I actually wasn't referring to you at all in my original post...
I am always willing to hear both sides of a debate. Just because someone doesn't agree with me is not what makes a person unintelligent. I don't claim to know it all... heck I am only 24 years old and just beginning my life and learning about politics...

I was refering to BLAZER PROPHET whose only response was "He's a Nutcase, that's why"...

Now how intelligent is that... even the rules of City Data forums state you must articulate your point and explain in full sentences what your viewpoint or exact question is...

Debate and Politically speaking, his argument is pretty weak with nothing but sarcasm... that was merely the point I was trying to make...

I will go and check out your links and let you know what I think...

But please next time try to read my entire reply, because it wasn't directed towards you, it was directed to short and sweet one liner responses...

I did, go back and look at your initial comment, it was universal in stating your observations about those who disagree:

"I wish those against Ron Paul had enough intelligence to understand in order to be viable in a debate".

[Kristynwy]

Originally Posted by NewToCA

I did, go back and look at your initial comment, it was universal in stating your observations about those who disagree:

"I wish those against Ron Paul had enough intelligence to understand in order to be viable in a debate".

Well excuse me for not having perfect grammar....

"those" was meant to refer to people who come on here with one sentence statements and provide nothing to back up their statements...

and what is more ironic is you are making a mountain out of a mole hill?

You are totally missing my point in the first place even after I have already clarified to you what my point was...

[Kristynwy]

What you did was chop my sentence in half and not read the other half that was seperated by a comma not a period...

Here is the other half of my sentence
(1st half of my sentence) I wish those against Ron Paul had enough intelligence to understand in order to be viable in a debate (notice the comma)-> , (2nd half) they need good reason of their point & why they claim Ron Paul and those of us who support him are tin foil hat wearing idiots...

Now why in the world would I say someone who proves their point intelligently and gives more than one sentence is unintelligent???? The whole reason I put a comma and not a period was so the second half of my sentence could clarify specifically to those who don't elaborate their points! that is all...
Sounds like you are trying to make me look bad rather than debate?

[AONE]

Seems you need to look at him on his issues and decide what is important
He supports big oil profits
Does not have an interest in energy independence
He does not support alternative energy
He scores low on environmental concerns
Seems to have a separatists approach to foreign affairs
Does not support NAFTA or other free trade initives
<Put 65 projects into 2006 bills, worth $4B to his district.> seems to not reflect the interest of the nation
wants smaller government, more states rights
Very pro NRA and gun rights
Does not support public health pplans
seems to be against the patriot act (yea)
not for the war or foreign intervention
not for immigration, wants the fence
wants Social sec phased out
doesnt support marriage amendment (yea)
doesnt support gay issues on eeoc, or adoption (boo)
does not support taxes seems to want them as close to eliminated as possible (yea)
opposes death penalty
opposes abortion, stem cell and so on...

Ron Paul on the Issues

Make up your own mind on him seems to me his ideas are a bit archaic in some areas.

[Vanslyke]

Originally Posted by AONE

Seems you need to look at him on his issues and decide what is important

He supports big oil profits

No one can do anything about the Oil prices, give up. Its not that he supports big oil, its that he cant do anything about it and he believes in free market

Does not have an interest in energy independence

Those energy bills where jokes to begin with
but beyond that, its simply the fact that the government shouldnt be giving our money to private organizations. Its the whole government intervention thing. Ill concede that this may be a little extreme.

He does not support alternative energy

See above

He scores low on environmental concerns

A) see above B) dont follow scores made up by random people

Seems to have a separatists approach to foreign affairs

seperatist approuch? He doesnt want our nose in everyones arse. Thats GOOD. How can people complain about Iraq and Iran and all the BS we are involved in now and then turn around and act like we SHOULD have our noses up everyones butt?

Does not support NAFTA or other free trade initives

you mean the free trade pacts that make outsourcing cheaper, cost thousands of jobs, profit big corporations, encourage cheap/sweat shop labor? Oh, man, how dare he...

Put 65 projects into 2006 bills, worth $4B to his district.

He's a senator, his job is to represent his state. Why are you attacking him for trying to take care of his district? Shows hes trying, and IS making a difference...

wants smaller government, more states rights

Duh...

Very pro NRA and gun rights

Supports the constitution ... shocker...

Does not support public health pplans

This isnt a socialist government, see my thread on "Socialized Medicine" to see some of the BAD things about socialized medicine...

seems to be against the patriot act

any decent human being should be

not for the war or foreign intervention

"gasp" how dare he!
btw: he has stated that he would go to war if we where attacked by a NATION. DONT say 9/11, please dont be that dumb. Its NO secret who started that.

not for immigration, wants the fence

Closing our borders to illeagal immigration... how is this a problem?

wants Social sec phased out

you mean that broken system thats not going to pay me anything till im 75? and even then isnt going to give me enough to get by on? ya... we should definately keep that piece of crap...

doesnt support marriage amendment

Should be a state right

doesnt support gay issues on eeoc, or adoption

See above

does not support taxes seems to want them as close to eliminated as possible

the only way to stop big government from endangering the US like they have been lately is to stop giving them the money that they need to do it. Government spending is way too high, it shouldnt be that high. We dont even know where 90% of our money goes...

opposes death penalty

thats a state right, if he has voted against the death penalty, it was most likely in his own state.

opposes abortion, stem cell and so on...

but he doesnt vote to outlaw them. He feels its a state right, so on federal votes he DOES NOT oppose these things, while in his STATE he does. It shows how dedicated he is, that he will take something so near and dear to him and NOT let it clog his mind when he votes on federal issues.

Ron Paul on the Issues

Make up your own mind on him seems to me his ideas are a bit archaic in some areas.

yupyup, incourage everyone to look at these... do a little research!

[paperhouse]

ROn Paul supports alternative energies. He does not support Congressional subsidies for ethanol made from corn. The market should dictate which energy forms are the most viable commercially and economically.

[Kristynwy]

Vanslyke Excellent Response!

It is quite obvious Ron Paul supports the Constitution and how the founding fathers meant our country to run in the first place, and puts the government in the place they should be aka the "least involved in our lives" and they should be more concerned about keeping our borders safe ect...