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Old 05-30-2008, 10:40 AM
 
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Obama is a far-left nutcase. I know what he wants to do (socialism) and it's despicable and goes against the principles and traditions that made this country what it is today."""


And what IS America today??

"""And do you think for one millisecond that most Americans give a hoot in hell what the rest of the "developed" world is doing?""""


Just the intelligent ones.



""" The Europeans can take their ridiculously overtaxed nanny states and shove them right up their posterior.

Not a good argument fishmonger.

"""Tbh, I'm pretty pissed off that the Iraq situation was mishandled so badly after the initial military victory over organized military forces. At this point, I wish we had never invaded in the first place. If we hadn't, then this thread would be unnecessary because the Democrats would still be where they belong, in the minority in Congress. And a far-left nutcase like Obama wouldn't have a chance in hell of getting elected. """


Isn't that whole paragraph an oxyMoron????



Paraphrasing: """The republicans screwed up so bad that the Democrats gained power and I don't like that because I like republicans who screw up better than Democrats...and""""...


...oh, I give up
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Old 05-30-2008, 10:43 AM
 
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Was political debate in America always as juvenile and a$$anine as this thread? It's pretty depressing to read these threads lately. I have no hope for the future of democracy at the moment.
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Old 05-30-2008, 10:53 AM
 
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Who are we to argue with Newton?
Einstein showed Newton to be wrong about a major thing or two (or maybe more), but since Einstein was maybe possibly slightly smarter than I am (by a small amount) perhaps I am not equipped to debate Newton's declarations of World Truth as I would be if I were a true political philosopher genius such as Ann Coulter, or whoever is the opposite of that Soviet spy Obama.
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Old 05-30-2008, 11:06 AM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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Ok, first of all:

University of Chicago Law School > Media

Obama is a law professor.

The rest of that long, ramble diatribe, is mostly opinion pieces written by heavy critics of Obama. There is no real discussion of the policies he is proposing, just snippets of quotes.

That Nydailynews link doesn't work, but anyway What is wrong with going to an African fair in NYC? It's akin to going to an Irish festival.

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She said voters should be wary of Obama's "any time, anywhere" stance on abortion.
Abortion up through viability, with exceptions later on the save the life of the mother. I 100% agree.

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"Alongside my own deep personal faith, I am a follower, as well, of our civic religion," he says. "I am a big believer in the separation of church and state. I am a big believer in our constitutional structure. I mean, I'm a law professor at the University of Chicago teaching constitutional law. [Actually, Obama is not a law professor, but a "senior lecturer." As Chicago Sun-Times columnist Lynn Sweet has pointed out, and I know from six-and-a-half years as a college adjunct lecturer, "In academia, there is a vast difference between the two titles." As Sweet also notes, however, Obama's misrepresentation of his academic position is the least of his credibility problems.]
Here is the actual full quote:
I went to a Catholic school in a Muslim country, so I was studying the Bible and catechisms by day, and, at night, you'd hear the [Muslim] prayer call. My mother was a deeply spiritual person. Her view always was that underlying these religions was a common set of beliefs about how you treat other people and how you aspire to act, not just for yourself, but also for the greater good. I am a follower, as well, of our civic religion. I'm a big believer in the separation of church and state. I am a big believer in our constitutional structure. I'm a law professor at the University of Chicago teaching constitutional law.

What is wrong with this? Separation of Church and State? It's what our country was FOUNDED UPON.

I'm deeply saddened that people do not want to help their fellow Americans, and would rather have them die from inadequate healthcare. It is social darwinism, I agree with him there. I hope that one day, someone doesn't ignore you if you are in need.
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Old 05-30-2008, 11:15 AM
 
Location: Wasilla
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"""Tbh, I'm pretty pissed off that the Iraq situation was mishandled so badly after the initial military victory over organized military forces. At this point, I wish we had never invaded in the first place. If we hadn't, then this thread would be unnecessary because the Democrats would still be where they belong, in the minority in Congress. And a far-left nutcase like Obama wouldn't have a chance in hell of getting elected. """


Isn't that whole paragraph an oxyMoron????



Paraphrasing: """The republicans screwed up so bad that the Democrats gained power and I don't like that because I like republicans who screw up better than Democrats...and""""...


...oh, I give up
Give me a break. If you can't refute my points, then don't post. Typical of a liberal, if you can't win an argument, obfuscate-distract-label, and then couch it in humor. You're following the script rather well I'd say.


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I'm deeply saddened that people do not want to help their fellow Americans, and would rather have them die from inadequate healthcare. It is social darwinism, I agree with him there. I hope that one day, someone doesn't ignore you if you are in need.
We pay high enough taxes as it is to support these ravenous and growing entitlement programs as it is. I don't owe anyone a living, or health care, other than my family and I refuse have more of my hard-earned income stolen to make some bleeding hearts feel better about themselves.

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Was political debate in America always as juvenile and a$$anine as this thread? It's pretty depressing to read these threads lately. I have no hope for the future of democracy at the moment.
Oh, is that because some of us have decided to take Obama to task for his insane socialist agenda and point out the fact that he would happily wreck our military to help fund his "progressive" schemes? Hmmmm?

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Old 05-30-2008, 11:17 AM
 
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I was never planning to vote for that radical leftist empty-suit Obama anyway but I just ran across this and it scared the hell out of me. This IDIOT plans on unilaterally disarming the nation. Probably to fund his ridiculous socialist proposals. God I hope that the American people aren't stupid enough to elect this kook.


YouTube - IN 52 SECS WHY BARACK OBAMA CANNOT WIN A GENERAL ELECTION
He shouldn't be elected because he's a socialist and has almost no experience in congress. He's the only one who opposed the Iraq war! He wasn't even in congress at the time! What has this guy done? I can't believe how naive people are, it's kind of sad.
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Old 05-30-2008, 11:25 AM
 
Location: Wasilla
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He shouldn't be elected because he's a socialist and has almost no experience in congress. He's the only one who opposed the Iraq war! He wasn't even in congress at the time! What has this guy done? I can't believe how naive people are, it's kind of sad.
It's more than sad, it's dangerous. This guy isn't qualified to run a Salvation Army soup kitchen and yet legions of lemmings are willing to follow him off the cliff of socialism and take the rest of us with them. Screw that.
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Old 05-30-2008, 11:30 AM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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Give me a break. If you can't refute my points, then don't post. Typical of a liberal, if you can't win an argument, obfuscate-distract-label, and then couch it in humor. You're following the script rather well I'd say.


{Cue the violin} We pay high enough taxes as it is to support these ravenous and growing entitlement programs as it is. I don't owe anyone a living, or health care, other than my family and I refuse have more of my hard-earned income stolen to make some bleeding hearts feel better about themselves.

Oh, is that because some of us have decided to take Obama to task for his insane socialist agenda and point out the fact that he would happily wreck our military to help fund his "progressive" schemes? Hmmmm?
Ok, fair enough, we obviously don't agree on health care. I don't agree with you that providing tax cuts for working families to help them pay for health care is socialist, but, you obviously think differently.

Besides health care, what about the other "points" from the paragraph.

Obama not being a professor of law? Can we agree that was false?
Separation of Church and State. Your opinion on how that's socialist or hurtful to the country.
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“ Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
Abortion to 24 weeks or when life or health is in danger. Your opinion on how that's socialist or hurtful to the country.
The "African Fair", why is it a bad thing?
Would it be shameful for me to attend: Great American Irish Festival

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Old 05-30-2008, 11:41 AM
 
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I do think Obama could serve the country better as a law professor, sticking to "facts" and not his "ideas". And of course would be safer for the rest of us. Seriously.
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Old 05-30-2008, 11:42 AM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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I do think Obama could serve the country better as a law professor, sticking to "facts" and not his "ideas". And of course would be safer for the rest of us. Seriously.
Tell me why. Tell me what you think Obama will do that is unsafe.
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