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Are the people who supported Hillary and say they will now vote for McCain instead of Obama the same people who said they would move to Canada if Bush won in 2004 but didn't?
Are the people who supported Hillary and say they will now vote for McCain instead of Obama the same people who said they would move to Canada if Bush won in 2004 but didn't?
No. The people who said they would move to Canada are now Obama supporters.
Most of the Hillary supporters who are voting for McCain are older Democrats, females, working class, and gay Democrats. I think a lot of Hillary's ethnic vote will go for McCain too but I don't think many of them post on boards. (I live in an area in California with a lot of Asians who went 3:1 for Hillary -- and I think there is one Obama yard sign like 2 miles from my house. He's not popular here.)
That site quickly gets down to destroying its credibility by saying that Obama is a Muslim. And it prominently displayed this quote of Obama. I'm supposed to be against him because he said this? I don't think so:
"I am absolutely certain that generations from now, we will be able to look back and tell our children that this was the moment when we began to provide care for the sick and good jobs to the jobless; this was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal."
That site quickly gets down to destroying its credibility by saying that Obama is a Muslim. And it prominently displayed this quote of Obama. I'm supposed to be against him because he said this? I don't think so:
"I am absolutely certain that generations from now, we will be able to look back and tell our children that this was the moment when we began to provide care for the sick and good jobs to the jobless; this was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal."
No. The people who said they would move to Canada are now Obama supporters.
Most of the Hillary supporters who are voting for McCain are older Democrats, females, working class, and gay Democrats. I think a lot of Hillary's ethnic vote will go for McCain too but I don't think many of them post on boards. (I live in an area in California with a lot of Asians who went 3:1 for Hillary -- and I think there is one Obama yard sign like 2 miles from my house. He's not popular here.)
I'm a Hillary voter who wouldn't want to vote for McCain in a million years. I will be voting for Obama as long as he overcomes and survives all the garbage and nonsense going around about him. If not, I'll just vote for a 3rd party candidate or leave the presidential part of my ballot unmarked.
unless people are disgusted with both sides by election day.
Of course people will be disgusted with both sides by election day. Mud slinging in every direction will make everyone numb by November.
As for Democrats Against Obama--I'm glad I live in a country where everyone is free to express their political opinion.
And UB50, I'm glad you found a forum where you can express your rage. Because you're going to be feeling a lot more of it. Like it or not, HRC is no longer running. Instead of finding the best second choice for your needs, you choose to have one over-heated temper tantrum after another. You know what--no matter who wins, the next president is going to make you furious. But that's ok--I think you mostly fume because like fuming. If you don't, get over it and pick the remaining candidate that serves your needs.
Officially, I'm not really a Democrat against Obama. I'm a Democrat against the Democrat Party. The Party is the one that really let the "lifelong" Democrats down.
Obama is what he is -- which is something that I would never vote for but that is beside the point. Or maybe that is the point? Why would the Democrat party saddle us with a candidate that has NO EXPERIENCE and is so UNDERQUALIFIED to be President except as an Affirmative Action candidate? He spent less than 150 days in the Senate before they decided to put him up as a Presidential candidate. Excuse me? But this is the highest office this country has. It's also one of the most powerful jobs in the WORLD! I just can't get behind this. Sorry. But I can't sign on and I won't vote for him. I think the whole idea of having him run for president of the USA is just an absolute joke. There are other African Americans who are far more qualified than Obama to be President but they didn't put them up to run -- and that ticks me off. It's like they are trying to pit their various constituencies against each other. Anyway, I'm not happy with all of this. I'm seriously wondering if I really want to be a Democrat any longer.
I'm seriously wondering if I really want to be a Democrat any longer.
It's good to check out the other parties. You owe it to yourself to find the right fit for you. The rnc works well for a lot of people. Or maybe you'll be happiest with the libertarians.
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Originally Posted by ovcatto
Democrats who would rather vote for 4 more years of what we have experienced over the last 8 need to stop claiming to be Democrats (if you are indeed Democrats, and I do have my doubts).
Obama is the nominee save your petitions, your psuedo-Democratic websites. Just change your registration and vote for the Party that better suits your interest, stupid and idiotic wars, poor economics, and a decline of civil liberties.
I so agree with that. I am a lifelong Democrat too and, only one time in my voting life- which began with Jimmy Carter vs Gerald Ford- have I voted for Republican (Bush 1 vs Dukakis). I have held my nose and voted for some Democrats I did not especially care for- such as Walter Mondale- who never should have been the nominee or the VP. I would have voted for Hillary too although I do not especially like her. I might point out that most of these elections were less turbulent times than we are seeing now. In this environment- with the economy and the war- anybody that would vote for McCain is really a Republican. And they should quit telling lies to us and themselves and register as such. It would be better for them and better for us.
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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Exactly. Now you feel my pain. I will not be one to sit home and not vote, but I can't vote for Obama. We have not seen the real Obama. He wears a mask. Too many issues swirl around him.
Obama isn't any more for gays than McCain. Both the same. At least I'd rather see the hate coming straight toward me from McCain and have time to react. What is the old saying??? Keep your friends close but keep your enemies closer?
If you think that than there is nothing anybody can say that will remove the mask from your face and let you see the light. ALL the major gay and lesbian organizations are supporting the Democrats this year with the sole exception of the Log Cabin bunch and they have always been Republicans. Do you think organizations like GALA and gay newspapers would endorse a candidate that hates them?
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