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Old 07-24-2008, 07:13 PM
 
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Look up the definition of leadership and if people respond then they are leaders. Well now who are two of the most respected American leaders in the world?
Bill Clinton and Barack Obama. Thats it and Bono (not American or elected official) is a world leader and is able to move citizens of the world. The question is does McCain have the right stuff to be able to get people of the world to listen and partner with us unlike George Bush. Yes and he has made the job for John McCain to be successful on the world stage all the more difficult. Obama doesn't have to be president to be a world leader and McCain will still have to deal with him as a Senator speaking out on issues that the world will respond to. He knows what he is doing and is striking a considerable blow for the Democrats against a McCain/Republican presidency and our relations with many countries in the world. Obama is becoming the standard the world will judge our next president by regardless of who wins.
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Old 07-24-2008, 08:03 PM
 
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Yes, it is remarkable that a presidential candidate can be recieved so warmly by the entire globe. America is on the rise.
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Old 07-24-2008, 08:19 PM
 
Location: Irvine, CA to Keller, TX
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Look up the definition of leadership and if people respond then they are leaders. Well now who are two of the most respected American leaders in the world?
Bill Clinton and Barack Obama. Thats it and Bono (not American or elected official) is a world leader and is able to move citizens of the world. The question is does McCain have the right stuff to be able to get people of the world to listen and partner with us unlike George Bush. Yes and he has made the job for John McCain to be successful on the world stage all the more difficult. Obama doesn't have to be president to be a world leader and McCain will still have to deal with him as a Senator speaking out on issues that the world will respond to. He knows what he is doing and is striking a considerable blow for the Democrats against a McCain/Republican presidency and our relations with many countries in the world. Obama is becoming the standard the world will judge our next president by regardless of who wins.
You are really scaring me. You are sipping and on the way to gulping the Kool Aid now. So a great speech is all we expect as a standard. I guess that puts Reagan right up there with Obama? Why is it that Democrats so dislike Reagan, he had some of the greatest speeches in American history. Seriously, I hope you have a better standard for world leaders than great speeches. Many of the world's most evil despots were far greater speakers than Obama. That is the worry about great speakers, people tend to listen less to the real words when they are completely enamored with the speaker. Germany can attest to that fact, and woefully so.
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Old 07-24-2008, 08:54 PM
 
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I think what they see in Obama is a president they can control.Plain an simple.
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Old 07-24-2008, 09:05 PM
 
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Hitler really got the crowd fired up with his speeches also.

Marx and Engels ignited an entire world wide political revolution of which was never seen in such scale before and is still lingering with us today in different forms with nothing more than a pen and paper.

Does not mean any of them were right.

As much as I love living in Europe, their politics are scary at best, anyone who they like for our president just helps screen out for me who not to vote for.
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Old 07-24-2008, 09:13 PM
 
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I think what they see in Obama is a president they can control.Plain an simple.
Sooooooo true................
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Old 07-24-2008, 09:16 PM
 
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Honest question. Didn't the world want John Kerry also? Let's not get into the Kerry would be better than Pres. Bush stuff, but you get the point. I think the world will ALWAYS want the liberal of our bunch, that doesn't mean they are anywhere close to being correct about it. Just my opinion.
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Old 07-24-2008, 09:21 PM
 
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I think what they see in Obama is a president they can control.Plain an simple.
And I think John McCain is a Martian who wants to melt all of our brains.

See, I can make arguments without any sort of basis in reality or logic, too.
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Old 07-24-2008, 09:25 PM
 
Location: Austin
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What got to me the most were all of the American flags being waved at a gathering of Germans. In 2008 no less! If Obama can make this kind of thing happen, imagine what kind of influence he can have on world events on our behalf in other places.
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Old 07-24-2008, 09:27 PM
 
Location: North Side of Indy, IN
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I posted this in an earlier thread, but I think it bears repeating:

Obama's speech drew the largest foreign crowd ever by a Presidential candidate. Did you read that? Presidential CANDIDATE. He's not even President (yet) and 200k Germans gathered to hear him speak. There's no precedent for that, from what I've read. McCain couldn't even get that many people to gather to hear him speak in this country, let alone in a foreign one.

While McCain is giving interviews in the cheese aisle of a grocery store, and driving golf carts around with George Bush Sr, Obama is demonstrating his ability to bring people together, and to incite hope and change from the same ol' same ol' of the past (and the present administration, unfortunately)...and he's doing it on a global scale. It's actually quite remarkable. There is literally nothing negative that can thruthfully be said about his speech today. Although the speech itself wasn't all that original or exciting, the fact that so many people in another country came to hear him speak, and he came off looking and sounding fantastic, was wonderful for him, his campaign, Democrats, and the US in general.

Much of the rest of the world views America as a declining nation, full of self-righteous, wasteful, obnoxious, ignorant fools...largely because of the current administration and its handling of foreign affairs. We need a President who will strengthen relations with our allies, and who will not only make American citizens feel as though a competent person is seated in the Oval Office, but who will again allow and encourage other nations to look up to the US as a world power worth reckoning with. As an American, I'm tired of cringing every time I hear that Bush visited a foreign country and did or said something idiotic or offensive. I'm excited for a President that is beloved and supported by many (albeit not all) Americans, AS WELL AS many citizens of foreign nations. What a refreshing change from the status quo.

Those of you who continually make ridiculous and banal anti-Obama comments regarding Kool-Aid, Islam, his middle name, his birth certificate, etc, are in for a very rude awakening come November. Better start getting used to it...Obama's gonna be the next President, whether you like or not.

The guy just freakin rocks.
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