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Old 08-01-2008, 10:04 AM
 
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Yet here you sit in this great country with the right to shove a hangar in your stomach and terminate a beating heart

if you choose




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I had to rep you for that one. Not only did you make me laugh, ITA. This government has real issues that they have ignored to the point that this country is on the verge of collapse. A woman's choice to give birth or NOT is not their business and outlawing abortions will merely serve to return us to the days of back room alley procedures.
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Old 08-01-2008, 10:06 AM
 
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Politically I think he should oppose roe wade to secure his right wing base. I think thats what hes doing and it is

right



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So what do you think Senator McCain should or will do? Which position do you think he should take?
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Old 08-01-2008, 10:07 AM
 
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Yet here you sit in this great country with the right to shove a hangar in your stomach and terminate a beating heart

if you choose
And to use contraceptives if you choose and teach your own children if you choose. All protected by the same interpretation of the 14th Amendment.
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Old 08-01-2008, 10:12 AM
 
Location: Cary, NC
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Yet here you sit in this great country with the right to shove a hangar in your stomach and terminate a beating heart

if you choose
I've never quite understood the coat hanger thing. Is the idea that you're supposed to shove it up in there, hook the fetus with the end, and drag it out?
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Old 08-01-2008, 10:13 AM
 
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Not sure, Im a guy. As long as it doesnt happen during football season i could GAF
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Old 08-01-2008, 10:15 AM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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I've never quite understood the coat hanger thing. Is the idea that you're supposed to shove it up in there, hook the fetus with the end, and drag it out?
Yes. It's incredibly dangerous and promotes infection (even though previous poster seems to think you would do it through your stomach ) The coat hanger is somehow supposed to break the amniotic sac, but it's incredibly easy to perforate the uterus instead.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unsafe_abortion
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-induced_abortion
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Old 08-01-2008, 10:18 AM
 
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I've never quite understood the coat hanger thing. Is the idea that you're supposed to shove it up in there, hook the fetus with the end, and drag it out?
In the days when it was illegal for a doctor perform an AB in a clinic or hospital setting, women died trying to give themselves ABs by various means, or by trusting some unskilled person working in the back of his or her car or second bedroom (for example). Imnot sure if some back-alley AB-ists actually used coat hangers but it's become the shorthand symbol.

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Old 08-01-2008, 10:19 AM
 
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Yes. It's incredibly dangerous and promotes infection (even though previous poster seems to think you would do it through your stomach ) The coat hanger is somehow supposed to break the amniotic sac, but it's incredibly easy to perforate the uterus instead.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unsafe_abortion
Self-induced abortion - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Thanks () for the good info.
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Old 08-01-2008, 10:20 AM
 
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Yet here you sit in this great country with the right to shove a hangar in your stomach and terminate a beating heart

if you choose
No, the hangars come out when abortion is outlawed....


but not for rich women.



The repubs can attack poor women and try to keep them down but rich women(and this includes christian rich women) will always be able to have safe clean abortions.....that's equality????
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Old 08-01-2008, 10:22 AM
 
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Not sure, Im a guy. As long as it doesnt happen during football season i could GAF
evidently you do GAF enough to come down on one side of the issue. Knee-jerk reaction or carefully weighed decision?

It's too bad but people are going to want/need to have abortions. They always have and they always will. Outlawing them will never make them stop as was pointed out succinctly above. The same way they're going to want or need contraceptives, also protected by the same fed amendment.
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