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Question geared here to my fellow Democrats, but Republicans and independents feel free to throw out some names as well...
As for me personally, I really really like this Brian Schweitzer guy, Montana governor, and Mark Warner. I also have a soft spot for Evan Bayh (who should have been Obama's running mate) and I also really like Kansas governor Kathleen Sebelius.
We must be thinking ahead to 2012 and 2016...If Obama wins, Biden will be too old to run in '16.
And we MUST defeat Hillary and the PUMAs. They must never win the Democratic nomination. Ever. No way. No how. Absolutely no Hillary.
No matter what happens in November, IMO the frontrunners will continue to be Clinton and Obama in 2012 and 2016. It will start to feel like a classic football rivalry.
No matter what happens in November, IMO the frontrunners will continue to be Clinton and Obama in 2012 and 2016. It will start to feel like a classic football rivalry.
If Obama loses because he was to soon and not experienced won't he be more so in four years? Didn't McCain run and lose before?
If Obama loses because he was to soon and not experienced won't he be more so in four years? Didn't McCain run and lose before?
What I can see happening is Obama winning 2008--Clinton winning 2012--and possibly even 2016 (if she's interested)--then Obama returning for his second term.
I would certianly hope it will be Hillary in 2012, BUT if Obama wins this time, he'll "f" the country over for 4 years. His victim routine and dramatics will wear on the country quickly....people will get sick of this guy after 4 years. An Obama win in 2008, will all but ensure a Republican win in 2012.
And we MUST defeat Hillary and the PUMAs. They must never win the Democratic nomination. Ever. No way. No how. Absolutely no Hillary.
Wha?! Stop voting on EMOTION!
Obama and Hillary are 95% the same, remember? Obama will come out and tell you to vote for Hillary, and you will fall in line like good little boys and girls and say, "YES SIR!"
Get over it. If Obama loses, it will be OBAMA'S fault - NOT Hillary's!!! Obama's support amongst Hillary supporters was HIGHER a couple months ago than it is now. Has nothing to do with Hillary.
Obama will more than likely lose the elections because the majority of US citizens vote like its a popularity contest. I mean no offense to anyone when I say this but, Obama is a black male, who is young, has previously been a muslim, has ties to a radical black church leader, is inexperienced, and seems to flip flop constsantly. On the other hand there is McCain who is an old, white, christian, war veteran, with a good bit of experience in federal politics, and has previously been a moderate republican. All these factors is what the common voter will look at it and you can obviously see that McCain has the advantage when it comes to the normal John Doe who doesn't really follow politics closely.
I would certianly hope it will be Hillary in 2012, BUT if Obama wins this time, he'll "f" the country over for 4 years. His victim routine and dramatics will wear on the country quickly....people will get sick of this guy after 4 years. An Obama win in 2008, will all but ensure a Republican win in 2012.
Her and Bill can say to all those suicidal dems/libs; "see, we told you!", "we told you he would not win". And I would bet my bottom dollar they will try and do everything they can to make sure that he doesn't.
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