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Old 09-07-2008, 07:48 AM
 
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Yes.

Palin is pure gimmick calculated to "energize the party base" because of discontent with the top of the ticket. As anyone can see from even a casual reading of this forum, the move did exactly that. The uncritical, emotionally-invested far right contingent has swallowed it whole and enthusiastically.

What it won't do is convince the independents that McCain and the GOP desperately need to win this election. To the contrary, it would seem to drive more of them to Obama's camp. But then, maybe that's all the GOP wants for this election: to make a statement that they're still the party of the religious right.
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Old 09-07-2008, 08:08 AM
 
Location: NY
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What it won't do is convince the independents that McCain and the GOP desperately need to win this election. To the contrary, it would seem to drive more of them to Obama's camp. But then, maybe that's all the GOP wants for this election: to make a statement that they're still the party of the religious right.
And that's what has me a bit puzzled. Most of the far-right would probably have stayed in the Republican camp if McCain had chosen either Romney or Huckabee, and Romney in particular would have appealed to at least some of the Independents, especially in the northeastern and some midwestern states too. It seems like McCain wanted to lock up the far right voters who most likely would have stayed loyal anyhow (unless he chose Lieberman) and didn't care as much about us Independents who are wary of extremists on either party.
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Old 09-07-2008, 09:30 AM
 
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I'm sorry were any of you guys governors.....I know I sure hadn't been so she's got one up on me...

I guess not even running the largest state in the union is good enough for some people.
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Old 09-07-2008, 09:35 AM
 
Location: Reality
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If you're a war hero, then you deserve to be president.

If you ran biggest state of the US, then the only person more deserving to be VP is the emperor of Antarctica.

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Old 09-07-2008, 09:37 AM
 
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I voted "no" because I feel it is just another attempt to bash Sarah Palin, and I feel Obama is and has been a much bigger "gimmick" for a a very long time. The celebrities, the "shows", the chanting and crying, so on and so forth...
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Old 09-07-2008, 09:39 AM
 
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I voted "no" because I feel it is just another attempt to bash Sarah Palin, and I feel Obama is and has been a much bigger "gimmick" for a a very long time. The celebrities, the "shows", the chanting and crying, so on and so forth...
Obama's "gimmick" lasted 19 months. Let's see how long Palin lasts.
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Old 09-07-2008, 09:40 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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I don't know what the outcome of this election will be. But it's a sad state in America when the president could be chosen because of how much of a "Grand Slam" gimmick his running mate is instead of whether or not he or she is the most qualified person to do the job should the president not be able to anymore (this is really what the vice-president does, folks!). Does anyone agree with this?
You're speaking of obama, right? I mean, where do you think he got the nicknames, "the messiah", "the one"? From his celebrity, pageantry, optics and stagecraft his campaign employs?

Phrases like "where the tide receded and the planet healed" play right into it.
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Old 09-07-2008, 09:43 AM
 
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I don't know what the outcome of this election will be. But it's a sad state in America when the president could be chosen because of how much of a "Grand Slam" gimmick his running mate is instead of whether or not he or she is the most qualified person to do the job should the president not be able to anymore (this is really what the vice-president does, folks!). Does anyone agree with this?
Sorry, but you're misguided. I posted that McCain hit a "grand slam" when he picked Palin, because he did. No one could have imagined a better pick. It's not his fault Obama picked a boring VP. But I was going to vote for McCain no matter who is VP was. Palin is indeed qualified - in fact, more qualified than either Obama or Biden. But I planned to vote for McCain because his political stance is much more aligned with the way I think than Obama. There is NO WAY I could vote for Obama, no matter who the Repub president or vice president was. He's a socialist and I cannot and will not vote for that. The founders of this country did not come here and create this great nation so that 232 years later we could elect a socialist for president.
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Old 09-07-2008, 09:47 AM
 
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I voted "no" because I feel it is just another attempt to bash Sarah Palin, and I feel Obama is and has been a much bigger "gimmick" for a a very long time. The celebrities, the "shows", the chanting and crying, so on and so forth...
I totally agree with you. I was voting for McCain no matter who the VP was, but I think picking Pallin was a brilliant move. She's driven, she's young, she's energetic, she's likable, and especially after Obama did NOT pick Hillary, I just think it was a brilliant strategic move to pick her, and while I wanted McCain to win anyway, now I am very excited about this campaign. I do believe she will shake things up in Washington, and that is what we need.
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Old 09-07-2008, 09:51 AM
 
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And that's what has me a bit puzzled. Most of the far-right would probably have stayed in the Republican camp if McCain had chosen either Romney or Huckabee, and Romney in particular would have appealed to at least some of the Independents, especially in the northeastern and some midwestern states too. It seems like McCain wanted to lock up the far right voters who most likely would have stayed loyal anyhow (unless he chose Lieberman) and didn't care as much about us Independents who are wary of extremists on either party.
I was going to vote for McCain anyway, and I am not far right. I don't agree with him on everything, and there were others I would have rather seen win the nomination, and at first I wasn't sure I was going to vote for him. But his political views are far more in alignment with mine than Obama's will ever be. Obama is just too far left for a lot of people, and they feel their only choice left is McCain. And if the choice is McCain or Obama, well....a lot of feel that we have to go with McCain.
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