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Old 10-20-2008, 12:19 PM
 
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isnt it socialism when our goverment tax us to build up its military infrastructure overseas, just to try and tell other nations how they should live their lives?
Try again.

 
Old 10-20-2008, 12:22 PM
 
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isnt it socialism when our goverment tax us to build up its military infrastructure overseas, just to try and tell other nations how they should live their lives?
no. is not.

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alot of the anti-socialist whiners are saying use your own got damn money not mine.. well when the goverment spend money on things many of us oppose why dont they just tax the hell out of people who want it..
Then nobody pays taxes.
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you know those people who oppose socialism but have no problem with anything else the goverment does with our money why dont those types be taxed for it, even double taxed
Not all taxes are socialist.
 
Old 10-20-2008, 12:26 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Where are you getting this information.
Immoral, a lot, if you didnt work for that money why you should get it. If you want more money you should go and get it, not sit around and wait for it.
I heard it straight from out of Obama's mouth.

And I'll tell you there's really a lot of hard working people out there in the real world just working their butts off at low paying jobs, and we should appreciate them better. This is just what Obama wants to do. So, please, wake up to what's going on with the presidential campaign.
 
Old 10-20-2008, 12:38 PM
 
Location: London UK & Florida USA
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You should read the CDC report before you call it rubbish.
Ignorance is bliss
Do YOU really believe that people put their family's at risk by choice? . At the time of the study there were 43.6 million people without health cover. The study was of 100,000 people. They also say..."The Centers For Disease Control And Prevention have issued a report saying that 1 in 5 U.S. adults, about 40 million people, cannot afford to get the health care they need".
 
Old 10-20-2008, 12:49 PM
 
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I heard it straight from out of Obama's mouth.
Then it must be true, forget everything he has put forward previously that says otherwise
 
Old 10-20-2008, 01:12 PM
 
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I heard it straight from out of Obama's mouth.

And I'll tell you there's really a lot of hard working people out there in the real world just working their butts off at low paying jobs, and we should appreciate them better. This is just what Obama wants to do. So, please, wake up to what's going on with the presidential campaign.
Can you please tell me when and where.
I can also said that McCain said something that he didnt.
A lot of people work hard, including 250k people.
so why hard working people should pay hard working people that earn less? If they want a better life, go and get it.
Under Obama you want a better life, dont worry the hardworking rich people will give it to you.
 
Old 10-20-2008, 01:16 PM
 
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Do YOU really believe that people put their family's at risk by choice? . At the time of the study there were 43.6 million people without health cover. The study was of 100,000 people. They also say..."The Centers For Disease Control And Prevention have issued a report saying that 1 in 5 U.S. adults, about 40 million people, cannot afford to get the health care they need".
No, most people without insurance dont have families, are single man or woman, if you read CDC report you would understand it better.
Also remember, a lot people think this are poor people. Well not poor people actually have insurance, WIC and medicaid.
Also if you read the report, almost about 30% of the people can request medicaid, but for some reason dont.
 
Old 10-20-2008, 01:21 PM
 
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So it's very wrong to think people who are successfully holding down low pay jobs who Obama wants to give tax refunds or credits to, to be thought of as successful?
thats not unlike calling ice cream, pizza.

what the heck are you talking about?

What is wrong is in suggesting that there is something fundamentally wrong with being successfull. What is wrong is having a government direction that makes it ok to take from those who have gained wealth leagally and via their own hard work to simply hand it to someone else for no better reason than they didnt make as much money as the first guy.

It is well within reason to suggest that all citizens ought to invest in a government that protects then and provides for the general welfare by builiding a society where any person can find real success via their own hard work.

Anyone suggesting that there should be no taxes, or even that t hose with more should not be asked to contribute more, are not being honest.

But when the view of govenemnt is to simply remove wealth from one person and extend it to another, you have crossed a line.

THIS is what Obama believes in. THIS is the heart of the problem with Barak Obama.
 
Old 10-20-2008, 01:26 PM
 
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But when the view of govenemnt is to simply remove wealth from one person and extend it to another, you have crossed a line.

THIS is what Obama believes in. THIS is the heart of the problem with Barak Obama.
Absolutely...
 
Old 10-20-2008, 03:06 PM
 
Location: London UK & Florida USA
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Do you think that people who work in low paid jobs or even have two low paid jobs but still can't afford health care are "spongers"? Do you think that people who frisk their companies for $40,000,0000 bonuses and need Govt bailouts are not "spongers"? which is it?
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