OMG! Joe Biden really said this?!?!?!?!?

[LauraC]

Originally Posted by ShakenStirred

Did you actually read the entire article? Joe Biden made me nervous.

There are two issues here:

1) Whether you can't believe he actually said it
2) Whether it's true

Biden says a lot of things a politician ought to keep to himself. The media likes to call it gaffes. I like to call it truth. Have you ever heard the word "gaffe" used by the media when they aren't talking about politics?

Now the Dems are spinning that of course Obama the newbie will be tested. That's the point isn't it. What crisis are we going to have to endure so Obama can get some "handling" experience? And why test him, isn't the world gonna LOVE us because Obama is the president?

What's even more disturbing is the rest of what Biden says, that would be the part about Obama doing something that we're all going to think is bad but trust them, it'll work out in the end. Either Biden's been hitting the Ouija board or they're planning something that's going to make us all puke after The One gets elected and Biden has been set up to prepare us for the worst.

Now, the media is dragging out the Biden Brain Scan issues. I'm thinking the guy speaks the truth. You can call it a gaffe.

[tekka-maki]

Originally Posted by BigJon3475

Oil production could very well be the exact same. The difference is instead of it going into SH's and his henchmen

Same... or worse... don't worry, it's always going into some henchman's pocket, rest assured of that. But with the futures bubble pop in oil prices, maybe thos henchman will have more reason to pump more now.

I do not believe for a second Hussein is not the Adolf Hitler boogeyman that many pundits here in the U.S. would tirelessly pretend, which is why the notion of his removal being the catalyst to an invasion wasn't even pursued prior to the invasion. Remember something about WMDs and false, doctored connections to Bin Laden, which showed not only was our cabinet misinformed, but that they blatantly lied.

Had this been used as a rationale, there never would have been an invasion (and for rightful reasons) as the U.S. people wouldn't (and shouldn't) have given a sh1t.

Originally Posted by BigJon3475

it's going back into society to rebuild and hopefully one day be a better country.

Technically, it appears to be going into a surplus, while the U.S. rebuilds the country (that sadly, it did destroy).

Originally Posted by BigJon3475

No one can say for sure but as Dem's would say it's got to be better than it was.

Quantifiable evidence (e.g. violence, crime, civil unrest, jobs, infrastructure etc.) would disagree, as would quite a few Repubs and Democrats (as would I). Don't think for a second that I would blindly follow the prevailing majority of Dems or the GOP w/o thinking an issue through.

Originally Posted by BigJon3475

In the post you originally replied to I'm not sure if you saw this or not but....

"We can only guess at the damage...."

Yes, but 'damage caused by attacks' is fundamentally different from 'damage avoided as a result of post-9/11 U.S. policy', wouldn't you agree?

Originally Posted by BigJon3475

I should have added it could have caused. I agree there is no way to know. All we can do is look at the attacks that were successful against us and then compare it to how many have not been successful. If we prevented just one 9/11 type attack the trillion we have spent fighting the wars and 3 trillion we have spent overall are just drops in the bucket compared to what another catastrophe like that would cost. It would be equal to what we have already spent and in some estimates long term 9/11 along has cost our economy (other than the wars) close to 8-10 trillion dollars through UE, rebuilding, price fluctuations....etc.

I agree we have to be more vigilant at home, mindful of the 3 party checks and balances and U.S. Constitution, if that's any consolation. Further consolation would be that I think that Joe Biden is a anti-network neutrality douche bag.

[SCBeaches]

Originally Posted by Who?Me?!

OH! OH! A CRISIS is coming ! Bawck Bawck! The sky is falling! Everyone run and hide ! Bawk!



Since when HASN'T a crisis been coming, arrived, and passed ???

Get a grip.

Hey, your man Biden is the one who lit the fires yesterday. He's whacked.