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I keep in mind that many of these lawyers crying foul are the same type who feels Manson should be pardoned, pedophiles should be allowed to swap pictures and that 9/11 was a big Gov conspiracy to start a war.
You don't understand.
The lawyers crying foul are the former prosecutors from the military tribunals, including the Chief Prosecutor!
"Under plans being put together in Obama's camp, some detainees would be released and many others would be prosecuted in U.S. criminal courts...
According to three advisers participating in the process, Obama is expected to propose a new court system, appointing a committee to decide how such a court would operate. Some detainees likely would be returned to the countries where they were first captured for further detention or rehabilitation. The rest could probably be prosecuted in U.S. criminal courts, one adviser said. All spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss the ongoing talks, which have been private.
Whatever form it takes, Tribe said he expects Obama to move quickly.
"In reality and symbolically, the idea that we have people in legal black holes is an extremely serious black mark," Tribe said. "It has to be dealt with."
I have no idea what the answer is, but this mess is one of many that The Bush Crime Family have left behind for someone else to clean up. Maybe Bush can set up a facility on the large parcel of land that he recently purchased.
BUSH REPORTED TO HAVE PURCHASED 99,000 ACRES IN PARAGUAY
"Why might the president and his family need a 98,840-acre ranch in Paraguay protected by a semi-secret U.S. military base manned by American troops who have been exempted from war-crimes prosecution by the Paraguayan government?"
Biden said they have no rights under our Constitution. Stuff that in yer pipe and smoke it hippie.
Biden is an condescending and hypocritical moron and doesn't see eye-to-eye with President-Elect on a variety of issues, which coincidentally hasn't changed Obama's view on said issues. As one example, Network Neutrality. Pour that in yer jug and drink it hick.
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You use a broad brush to paint your picture. More than just a few of those detained at GITMO were captured on the field of battle trying to kill American soldiers along side their Taliban and binladen wanna be friends. Many were captured in the act of making bombs. Many were captured in the company of known Terrorists. In short I doubt many are innocent by standers wrongly accused. I keep in mind that many of these lawyers crying foul are the same type who feels Manson should be pardoned, pedophiles should be allowed to swap pictures and that 9/11 was a big Gov conspiracy to start a war.
What a weak argument... many, many, many, many, many huh? What does that add up to exactly? Not even a single link, citation, or single statistic. You're too sad... and your brush is certainly the broadest (and damaged)...Ready for some actual facts?
Shayana Kadidal, senior managing attorney for the Guantanamo Global Justice Initiative at the Center for Constitutional Rights:
"The military has already said they will only charge a maximum of 80 detainees at Guantanamo which leaves over 200 that will never be charged, and if you add that to the 500 that have already been released then it shows you the vast majority of these people there were picked up by mistake. "
"...it's worth pointing out that only 4% of detainees at Guantanamo were picked up on anything resembling a battle field. And only 1 out of 512 there in 2004 were picked up by the U.S. on a battlefield"
"... 780 have been held over the last 6 years at Guantanamo; over 500 have been released to their home countries, and you can count on the fingers of your hand how many have been charged, so that leaves 280; 80 of which the U.S. Military states they will charge, which previous evidence would indicate is a gross exaggeration. They've charged less than 20 so far and they seem to be willing to charge the lowest level offense, things such as participating in the Armed Forces of Afghanistan..."
John Hutson, adviser to Sen. Barack Obama's presidential campaign; president and dean, Franklin Pierce Law Center; former judge advocate general for the U.S. Navy
"...if it turns out that there is no evidence against these people indicating that they should be incarcerated or that there detention should be continued, well then their detention should not be continued... that's the whole point of Habeas Corpus"
"we have gotten ourselves in a real predicament with these people and a number of people that may not have been serious threats before...uh, as it remarked earlier in the conversation that many of those were turned over to us for revenge purposes or identified as terrorists when in fact they were not, but now... some 5-6 years later, they may be a problem, but one way or another, whether with refugee status or returning them to their home country, or to a 3rd country... or prosecuting them, that's the best answer. But among these alternatives. we need to do something because we simply can't hold them forever..."
Also worth noting:
Col. Stuart Herrington, (a retired interogator) was interviewed on June 16th, 2008 on the DH show, and reflected on how abysmal the conditions were on his last visit to inspect Get-mo. This man has oodles of experience in interrogation, from Vietnam to Panama, to Op. Desert Storm and interestingly enough, he stated the best information he was ever able to extort from a detainee was info as a result of the treatment given to detainees; rather than brutalizing the suspects and putting them in retrofitted shipping containers as cells (as was the case previously in Getmo), they gave them 4 star service (treated them with precedence according to rank; decent living conditions, good food etc.). Ironically, the men were much more apt to talk and share valuable intel; according to the Colonel.
Innocent until proven guilty. Anyone, Republicans especially, who believe in U.S. Constitutional rights (and the Geneva Convention) should be applauding this move.
Biden said you're dead wrong with respect to foreign combatants.
This is would be the first time in US history that people captured on the battlefield in foreign land would be subject to US civil courts and laws. In wars past such people were tried by military court. And to the bleeding heart liberals crying about torture, my next post will be a link to a CNN story on what real torture is all about and this torture was performed against American soldiers you seem to hate so much.
I want a Jack Bauer finger cutting at the right moment, and you, little man, would want it also if your arse was on the line.
I couldn't have written a better sarcastic response, except omle is being sarcastic.
God help us from the armchair warriors and their "24" fantasies.
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