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Old 11-18-2008, 06:49 PM
 
Location: San Antonio North
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Oh, I'm not crying, not in the least.

President Barack Hussein Obama!
Ding ding ding we have a winner!!!

Finally someone on the left that is not scared of the pres. elects middle name.
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Old 11-18-2008, 06:50 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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512 x 0.024 (2.4%)=12.2
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Old 11-18-2008, 06:51 PM
 
Location: West Michigan
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It's killing you that Obama voters are being shown for what they are - ignorant. I love it.
Ma'am, I am in the military and while I voted for "someone else" (not disclosing), I have many friends and co-workers who voted for Obama, I don't think it's appropriate to call our troops ignorant. I also have many friends who voted for McCain and while I didn't agree with McCain's choice in VP, I certainly would never dream of calling them ignorant because of their vote.
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Old 11-18-2008, 06:52 PM
 
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Ma'am, I am in the military and while I voted for "someone else" (not disclosing), I have many friends and co-workers who voted for Obama, I don't think it's appropriate to call our troops ignorant.
I have the utmost respect for our troops. But if the shoe fits...
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Old 11-18-2008, 06:53 PM
 
Location: The Coldest Place
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THE PERSON WHO COMMISSIONED THE POLL SPEAKS

Well, if nothing else, he's certainly a charmer.
"The point here was not to show that Obama supporters were idiots -- there are plenty of idiots on both sides of the aisle -- but what information they got from the media that they were able to consume."

I guess he is a mind-reader as well as a push-pollster.
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Old 11-18-2008, 06:53 PM
 
Location: Chapel Hill, NC
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I clicked on that. Saw it was fivethirtyeight.com. Saw in the headline they call it a push poll, which Zogby says loud and clear it is NOT. SO - biased crap and I'm not reading that article. Good try though.
Far be it from be to keep you deprived, so let me quote some excerpts! (Though I chopped what I wanted to cite to abide by copyright. Including several "****s")
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NS: Do you stand by all the statements in the survey as being unambiguously true?
JZ: I stand one hundred percent by the notion that there is absolutely zero ambiguity as to what the right answer is to any of the questions...
...
NS: Do you think that certain types of voters are less well informed?
JZ: I think anyone that looks rationally at these poll results would have to conclude that Obama voters are incredibly poorly informed about major issues that occurred during the campaign -- my guess is because McCain voters got their information from different types of media than Obama voters did.
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NS: What is Barack Obama’s religion?
JZ: You'll have to ask him. But I do know that he never claimed to be a Christian until he met Reverend Wright. And I do believe -- and I’ve never held this against him -- that it would have been highly unlikely for him not to have been registered as a Muslim as a child in Indonsesia but who cares. He did change his website based on that reality –- he was far more ambiguous about that issue on Fight The Smears. I’m an agnostic so I couldn't care less what his religion is. I just care that he lied about it.
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NS: Well, since you’re running a website calling people misinformed, I’d like to see if -- there are certain things you’ve said that I would consider misinformed.
JZ: Misinformed? You're a piece of work! You are never going to have the guts to post a representative transcript on your website! I thought you actually ran a legitimate website!
NS: Thank you, have a good day.
JZ: Go **** yourself.
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Old 11-18-2008, 07:01 PM
 
Location: West Michigan
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I have the utmost respect for our troops. But if the shoe fits...
I'm glad you do. I will say I don't take issue with slinging mud at the politicians, but to place a derogatory label on a large group of Americans simply because of who they voted for is what I consider Un-American, though I will continue to happily stand-up for free speech.
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Old 11-18-2008, 07:05 PM
 
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I take it people realize that the poll assessed how well charges made by one candidate against the other had been retained. It shows that Obama voters remembered claims made by Obama about McCain quite well, but didn't remember claims made by McCain about Obama nearly as well. The fact that Obama had record amounts of money and aired record numbers of ads, while McCain was broke and couldn't keep up anything like the same advertising pace, will certainly have been a factor in explaining the outcome of this poll...
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Old 11-18-2008, 07:14 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Can you imagine if Palin smoked? The media would have been all over that; with Obama, they ignored (or hid) it.
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You are exactly right.
Sarah herself admitted to smoking, not tobacco, but marijuana. She claimed it was legal in Alaska then, but it was not legal per federal law, which trumps state law. So Ms. Sarah herself committed a federal offense!
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Old 11-18-2008, 07:16 PM
 
Location: San Antonio North
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Sarah herself admitted to smoking, not tobacco, but marijuana. She claimed it was legal in Alaska then, but it was not legal per federal law, which trumps state law. So Ms. Sarah herself committed a federal offense!
Are we forgetting the coke head in the white house and the coke head soon to be in the morning??

Im only if we are going to split the hair.
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