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Old 05-23-2010, 09:31 AM
 
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So another "angry white male" republican wins in Hawaii.............................
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Old 05-23-2010, 09:44 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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As a Hawaii resident I will tell you that Djou's victory will be short lived. Democrats run the show out here. Hawaii is Obama's territory and you can count this coming November that Democrats will still be in power.
Well, I don't know.

Considering there will be a bruising primary battle between the two democrats, those voters who lose that primary might feel a bit disenchanted and not come out to vote.

Case is a moderate dem and Hana is very liberal.

You can't automatically assume that the dem votes go to whoever wins the dem primary.

Meanwhile, republican "turnout" was very good for this race and you can guarantee it will be even better come November.

Take the "obama" factor out of the race (he won't be on the ballot, but his policies sure will) and he might have a chance.

Gore won with 55% and Kerry with 53%.
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Old 05-23-2010, 09:46 AM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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Was their an ideological difference between the two Dems or was it more of a local Hawaii politics thing?
There was no difference between the two Dems whatsoever. They might have supported a few different views to distance themselves but overall, they are all part of the democrat machine politics that takes place in Hawaii. I really didn't pay much attention to this election because come November that seat will be reclaimed by the Democrats. Anyway, a Republican in Hawaii is about as far left as a Republican can get. In some states Djou would be viewed as a moderate Democrat. Niel Abercombie (D) the congressmen who's seat was taken by Djou is running for Governer and most likely will win thus replacing the current Hawaiian governor who is a republican (and she is damn good administrator) and reclaim the seat for democrats. So in the overall scheme of things Hawaii is moving more left than it previously was the last few years.
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Old 05-23-2010, 10:28 AM
 
Location: SARASOTA, FLORIDA
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And to think Obama grew up in this district and did not go out and help his fellow dems on this one?

Funny how a rep wins something it means nothing, but a dem wins a small little election in a dem state and its the greatest thing on earth.

Either way, liberalism and liberals running things is about to become extinct in America. It is just a matter of time.
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Old 05-23-2010, 10:31 AM
 
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As a Hawaii resident I will tell you that Djou's victory will be short lived. Democrats run the show out here. Hawaii is Obama's territory and you can count this coming November that Democrats will still be in power.

I can ditto this post. hawaii is solidly behind obama
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Old 05-23-2010, 10:48 AM
 
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dup thread. see the election folder. djou shouldn't unpack lol
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Old 05-23-2010, 11:05 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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I can ditto this post. hawaii is solidly behind obama
But....obama is not running.

As we have seen in other elections, VA, MA, NJ, obama FAILED to bring out the machine.

What makes you think the response in Hawaii would be any different?
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Old 05-23-2010, 11:09 AM
 
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But....obama is not running.

As we have seen in other elections, VA, MA, NJ, obama FAILED to bring out the machine.

What makes you think the response in Hawaii would be any different?
I don't doubt djou will get votes, when you add up the spilt vote by the dems the result may have well been different. obama is very well thought of in this state, as is his politics. this is a blue state. we may give a rep an office now and again but it is short lived. in a general election where more voters turn out the seat will go to the dem. could be wrong, we shall see come nov.
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Old 05-23-2010, 12:29 PM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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But....obama is not running.

As we have seen in other elections, VA, MA, NJ, obama FAILED to bring out the machine.

What makes you think the response in Hawaii would be any different?
Hawaii is very different than those states you listed. Being a small group of Islands changes the mindset of the people and the politics drastically. When living on an Island the organizations that run the port system run the entire island due to controlling the flow of resources and all commerce. Those same organizations are also entrenched politically with the Democratic party. The unions have and always will run Hawaii. While Republicans win from time to time they never accomplish anything they promise due to them not having the political backing. And if Djou wins this November he will be a republican by name but not by actions. The residents of Hawaii will expect him to bring as much federal money home as possible just like his predecessors. Some of the largest industries in Hawaii are all government related whether it be on a state or federal level and if he supports any cuts in those fields he will be voted right out of office.

edit- Hawaii is one of the bluest of blue states and the people take a particular pride in it. If the vote wasn't split between two dems this election would have been a landslide victory for the democrats
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Old 05-23-2010, 12:34 PM
 
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I don't doubt djou will get votes, when you add up the spilt vote by the dems the result may have well been different. obama is very well thought of in this state, as is his politics. this is a blue state. we may give a rep an office now and again but it is short lived. in a general election where more voters turn out the seat will go to the dem. could be wrong, we shall see come nov.
While vacationing in Hawaii a month ago, I got the sense that it is indeed Obama country. Bus drivers, hotel attendants, sales people, business people, military veterans talk about him in glowing terms. People are proud of him there. I cannot envision a scenario wherein Hawaii would turn its back on him. He would have to screw up big time....such as causing the Diamond Head volcano to explode....for Hawaiians to sour on him.
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