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Originally Posted by Peregrine
Agreed.
Answer: geography.
It thought it was well established. Isn't that why we have this:
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Originally Posted by City Data Guy
I'm inclined to agree with this as well.
The geography argument undermines the Graeco-Roman, Judeo-Christian argument: the epicenter of that world was the Mediterranean and even what modern-day UK imperialists and their successor refer to as the "Middle East", Europe was the underdeveloped periphery.
In my view, though to be sure geography forms a base, political expediency is also a very significant factor.
If geography were the only factor, then, analogously, Alaska and Hawaii cannot be US.
Why is it a stupid thread? If you think it's stupid ... don't answer it.
The fact is, Europe is not a distinct, physical landmass - it is considered a seperate continent only for cultural reasons. So imo, what countries are part of Europe and what countries are not is a flexible idea that changes with time and from person to person.
Why is it a stupid thread? If you think it's stupid ... don't answer it.
The fact is, Europe is not a distinct, physical landmass - it is considered a seperate continent only for cultural reasons. So imo, what countries are part of Europe and what countries are not is a flexible idea that changes with time and from person to person.
Speaking of one physical landmass we would see Afro-Eurasia as a one big continent.
The term "continent" may also refer to a cultural and political distinction. Then we get Europe, Asia and Africa. Europe is a land that is inhabited by white, Christian people. These are two main factors that distinguish us from Asians and Africans. Borders of Europe end where Christianity ends.
In fact, both definitions of continent are correct.
Here you may see distribution of Christianity (blue, purple, red) and Islam (green)
And here you got Europe (green) and her border.
These two maps cover pretty much the same territory.
political expediency is also a very significant factor.
Of course. You will always find common points or differences with your neighbor according to your interests of the current time...Christianism or "geography" seem just to be pretexts.
Social science, Geology, Ethno-Linguistics, Comparative-Historical Linguistics, Genetic Anthropology & tradition, define Europe & all else, regarding continents! We must take into account the mapping of our matrilineal DNA, in particular! Genographic National Geographic, mapping of the quite distinct European branches, from the Asian branches of our common Human Race, social mix, must be included in this discourse! Patrilineal directions, retraced back around the Matrilineal rainbow arcs, connecting Africa, with the rest of all else, outside Africa! The key to the Anthropology role, is the distinct branch Europe took, as it formed a unique social ecosystem, still tied to Africa & all else of our whole human race! The ethno-linguistics, compliments the genographic anthropology, very well! There are no pure separate races! We are one social mix, in our whole human race! Meanwhile, marine evidence adds to geologic evidence of a Ural Ocean, enclosed by continental suturing of Russian,East Europe, with West Central Asia & North West Siberian Asia! If folks can get over the past & current KKKlaNazi white racist halucinaddicts, we must also not make new habits of demeaning European Social culture! Let us not confuse our social human race with anti social bad seed!
As a Norwegian I really don't agree with this. We consider ourselves Europeans.
You speak for yourself, sir. I don't consider myself European, and neither does anyone I know who isn't in fact from the Continent.
Lines on maps are pretty arbitrary, and they get more arbitrary as the scale grows larger. If half of Russia is European, why isn't half the Russian Federation applying for EU membership? The benefits would be tremendous.
Social science, Geology, Ethno-Linguistics, Comparative-Historical Linguistics, Genetic Anthropology & tradition, define Europe & all else, regarding continents!
So...Hungary and Finland aren't part of Europe?
I suppose what makes a country "European" is location west of the Urals. That would make the Republic of Kalmykia (Russ. Federation) "European", even though ethno-linguistically it's Mongol.
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What is it that makes a country European?
